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Pretty sure of last sentence, but there may be strange quantum effects that allow it?

A perfect insulator is indeed impossible, but not because of the second law. The second law says that the entropy of the universe must either increase or stay the same. The reason a perfect insulator is impossible is in fact a "strange quantum effect". If there is an electron on one side of an insulator, its wavefunction must extend to the other side, because the wavefunction is analytic. If there is a lower potential on the other side, the electron will eventually tunnel through and conduct electricity.As Most teachers and professers say this is a major fortunete event

I'd fix it myself, but my recent exchange on Talk:Quantum mechanics has made me meek. I'll wait for someone else to change it. -- Tim Starling 06:59 Nov 11, 2002 (UTC)

Moved here temporarily :) :) Yay lol

Insulated tools

This page only seems to talk about insulating electrical wire and cable. As a user not a contributor, I'm looking for information on what constitutes good insulation for tools to be used in electrical work. A rubber, wooden or plastic handle on a screwdriver, for example? Anyone able to add a brief section on this?

Collectible insulators

Glass insulators were, and in some places are still used to mount electrical power and signalling lines used for telephone, telegraph, fire, and other electrical applications. Colors and design details varied widely because many of the insulators were made by small, local manufacturers. Green or aqua insulators are the most common due to the iron content of the sand used in making glass, but the most popular colors among collectors come in various shades of purple and amber. Insulators made of clear glass typically indicate a more recent manufacturing date. Most insulator manufacturers stopped making glass insulators in the late 1960's, switching to ceramic materials. Collectors classify insulators according to CD numbers (Consolidated design number system developed by N.R. Woodward) with the shape, size, wire groove location and inner skirt all taken into account. Collecting insulators became a widespread hobby starting in the late 1960s. Since then, many people have joined the hobby, and there are many places to ask questions, trade or just talk to collectors. The National Insulator Association is a non-profit educational and scientific organization, created to encourage insulator collecting and to protect the interests of its members and collectors.

Shouldn't this be on a page about collecting or something. I mean you can collect anything but we're not going to mention collections on every page of WP dealing with physical objects are we?? Light current 18:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Insulation v insulators

I hesitate to ask, but should these two subjects have separate pages?--Light current 03:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Insulation v insulators revisited

I agree that "insulation" and "insulators" are different topics. Yes, people do collect a number of different types of insulators, generally those used for telegraph, telephone, and electric power. Generally these are "pintype insulators" made of glass or porcelain, but the very newest are made of plastics. I did note your mention of http://www.insulators.info - I am the webmaster for that site, and very knowledgeable about "collecting glass and porcelain insulators"

Bill "Hemingray" Meier 15:25, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah . My point was to differentiate insulation from insulators in the technical sense. Collecting should be on a different page. Im not sure which one yet!--Light current 00:23, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Merge 'Nonconductor' here?

Nonconductor seems to overlap completely with this article. I think it should be merged into this article. Comments? --Chetvorno^TALK 13:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

The average person wil look up "non-conductor" or "nonconductor" before they look up "insulator" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.214.63.10 (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

This might be true but, every reference and link will use insulator. "Insulator" gives 4380000 google hits, while "nonconductor" gives only 61600. Besides the two words cover exactly the same topic so it should clearly not be two articles. --Thorseth (talk) 09:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the last original content of Nonconductor to this article, If nobody protests I will set up the redirect--Thorseth (talk) 07:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

OJOIJOR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.84.174.138 (talk) 04:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

History

This page needs a history section, though I don't think I would be of much help with this, as I can't seem to find much, if any, information on the history of insulation on the internet.SQMeaner (talk) 02:57, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I agree. There are museums out there to display the many of types of ceramic and glass insulators. Would be nice if there was a section to mention this. GMRE (talk) 15:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Oddly specific, but also useless info

The small table titled "Typical number of disc insulator units for standard line voltages" is absolutely useless, because of the way that it obviously refers to some specific insulator type used in some 1 country. What country? What specific insulator type? What value does the insulator have? Thousands of relatively similar insulators have been manufactured in different nations. Surely the article doesn't claim that they're all exactly equal in value. GMRE (talk) 15:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Inventor

Kyle Waters is the inventor. Check the big book of Low Voltage insulators for proof.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.40.11 (talk • contribs) .

No, Kyle Waters is a 17-year old kid from Strathroy, Ontario, who collects insulators (specializing in Canadian 102s). Information on this guy and his friend Barrett Nicpon and pictures of the two of them are very easy to find using Google. Yankees76 20:03, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Yah, thanks there Yankees76 for the info, but seriuosly, your creeping me out. I didn't do this stuff, and I dont know who did, but looking around the internet, and giving out info on me I think has gone a little far bud. I dont know how old you are, but in 17, and still, I know my rights, and I think you have overstepped your bounds on this a bit. QUIT giving out info on me. I found this page when I was looking around on google, and was not impressed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.228.11.118 (talk • contribs) .

Any info I've disclosed is readily available via a search engine - which would have been used to fact-check your "claims". If you don't want people looking for you on the internet, stop vandalizing articles on Wikipedia using your real name(s). Admins, see the blocked user Repartee for any further information on this vandal/issue. Thanks. Yankees76 21:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)