Talk:Infectious Diseases Society of America

Guidelines

The guidelines from this body are getting longer, but not more evidence-based: http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/171/1/18 JFW | T@lk 11:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

ILADS has the only guideline that meet the NGC Inclusion Criteria.<https://www.guideline.gov/summaries/summary/49320> The IDSA guidelines were removed for failing to meet the inclusion criteria. <https://www.lymedisease.org/idsa-guidelines-removed-ngc/>Adpdo (talk) 04:51, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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COVID and other topics

This article does not mention COVID even once, despite being a major event in which IDSA produced guidance and evidence reviews. It seems to me that this article could be expanded to include more topics. 23:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC) ScienceFlyer (talk) 23:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Fringe edits

I have reverted disruptive edits by WP:SPA @OlaLj. All of the edits are attempts to legitimize pseudoscience and conspiracy theories related to so-called chronic Lyme disease. The edits are contrary to the scientific consensus, are WP:FRINGE, and fail to conform to WP:MEDRS. According to the consensus of German experts, "In terms of the pathophysiology of presumptive “chronic Lyme disease” or “chronic Lyme neuroborreliosis”, current systematic reviews have not found a scientific basis for the assumption of a persistent latent infection caused by Borrelia burgdorferi or its morphological variants." Bloomberg has investigated the influence of billionaires Steven and Alexandra Cohen, who are not reliable medical sources. Likewise, it is well-known that ILADS is a major fringe source. LymeDisease.org is also known as a source of inaccurate information. ScienceFlyer (talk) 02:37, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Reply to WP:SPA Fringe edits.

• 1. Saying that Steven and Alexandra Cohen are not reliable sources it stod clearly that the statement/critics against IDSA was in partnership with HHS.gov - so saying "who are not reliable medical sources" is false from WP:SPA.
• 2. When WP:SPA edits says "The edits are contrary to the scientific consensus" that it is against WHO code ICD11 "Dementia due to other specified diseases classified elsewhere: Dementia due to Lyme Disease (6D85.Y)". Unless others like WP:SPA believe that dementia can also be cured by IDSA guidelines with 28 days antibiotics.
• 3. The accusation also that LymeDisease.org such as Cohen and HHS.org is not a reliable source the accusation stands om zero grounds.
• 4. Regarding "influence".

In 2021 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, HHS criticized Center for Disease Control (CDC) and prevention page 92:"Recommendation 9.3: Recommend that if the CDC posts any Lyme treatment guidelines, that they [CDC] include guidelines on persistent Lyme Disease." The reason for critics from HHS is that CDC refers to IDSA who has no guidelines for persistent [chronic] lyme since IDSA:s standpoint is that chronic Lyme does not exist against WHO code ICD11/(6D85.Y).

• 5. Regarding "attempts to legitimize pseudoscience and conspiracy theories related to so-called chronic Lyme disease"

IDSA calls chronic Lyme for PTLDS. That diagnose is not recognized by WHO so it is then quackery. When IDSA says " persistent Lyme" or "Post treatment Lyme" the Lyme is obviously still not eradicated then and the definition of chronic according to National Cancer Instate is: "that usually lasts for 3 months or longer and may get worse over time".

• 6. HHS.gov (together with Cohen foundation) page 109; "Contributing factors. [that chronic/persisting/existing Lyme exists] The belief that Lyme is resolved outright after the IDSA guideline treatment, preventing patients from managing persistent Lyme symptoms and making future plans around their condition"https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/tbdwg-2022-report-to-congress.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by OlaLj (talk • contribs) 09:49, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Neither of the documents hosted on the HHS web site was authored by HHS. The report of the Tick-borne disease working group clearly states "Information and opinions in this report do not necessarily reflect the opinions of each member of the Working Group, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, or any other component of the federal government". Also, Bloomberg reported, "The [working] group is populated by activists who oppose the primacy of evidence-based treatments, according to current and former members, and its reports to Congress include their rebuttals alongside scientific findings." The "health plus" report was authored by a digital design agency hired by a project of pseudoscience group Steven and Alexandra Cohen Foundation. The bit about the ICD codes is nonsensical and not supported by any source whatsoever. You have not posted a single reliable source regarding Lyme disease or the Infectious Diseases Society of America ScienceFlyer (talk) 23:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

References

Publications

Is there a better way to present the publications? Currently it's in the format <link to publication on wiki> <external link to publication>. Also if anyone's interested in contributing or commenting, I'm drafting my first Wikipedia article Open Forum Infectious Diseases, since no article exists for it currently. 21:45, 24 March 2023 (UTC) ScienceFlyer (talk) 21:45, 24 March 2023 (UTC)