Talk:Indo-European cosmogony

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Alcaios in topic Vestige of the myth in the Balkans?

@Azerty82: May I refer to you these books? They seem *very interesting* to the I-E reconstruction:

  • Hercule et Cacus, étude de mythologie comparée. [1]
  • Zoological mythology; or, The legends of animals Vol I, by Angelo de Gubernatis (Chapters of The Cow/Bull and The Horse). [2]
  • Zoological mythology; or, The legends of animals Vol II, by Angelo de Gubernatis (Chapters of The Dog and The Serpent/Aquatic Monster). [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14D:5CE7:8E72:B827:3F92:5D97:DA8B (talk) 02:45, 20 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
Hi, thank you for the references (although they are bit dated). I'll look into this as soon as possible ;-) Azerty82 (talk) 15:47, 20 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
I found the handouts of a 2019 lecture on Wolf and Horse as cultural elements in Indo-European culture. https://www.helsinki.fi/sites/default/files/atoms/files/wolf_and_horse_handout.pdf 19:37, 21 March 2020 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14D:5CE7:8E72:52A:5696:A76B:8115 (talk)
Thanks, I haven't read this one yet! Note that old sources are not necessary wrong, but they may have been superseded by new research ;-). Azerty82 (talk) 20:07, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
Edit: this was a very interesting paper written by a reliable and recent source, thank you! I have used material for the article Proto-Indo-European society ;-) Azerty82 (talk) 23:14, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Reflections of *Trito in Iranian - The episode of the liberation of the Waters edit

There is a deity named Tishtrya in Iranian Yashts that seems related to the role of the liberation of the waters. This god is connected to fertility and rainfall and fights an evil being Apaosa, who causes droughts.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/tistrya-2 https://books.google.com.br/books?id=NQ12k9delf4C&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=%22tishtrya%22+indo-european&source=bl&ots=RLxNMcUHvi&sig=ACfU3U0-N-M0blcdoLpUOmsHRQNMH3OxUg&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyptz_58_oAhUJIbkGHTtMA7IQ6AEwBnoECAoQRQ#v=onepage&q=%22tishtrya%22%20indo-european&f=false - (Eschatology in the Indo-Iranian Traditions: The Genesis and Transformation/AUS - American University Studies) pp. 181 ss. https://books.google.com.br/books?id=sEIngqiKOugC&pg=PA469&lpg=PA469&dq=%22tiur%22+armenian+god&source=bl&ots=3ww-d3-8TE&sig=ACfU3U0DLRV5GWxM7zPhdCRRt6Em8T1cmA&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwixxZGj5s_oAhUOIbkGHfmsAx8Q6AEwBXoECAsQQA#v=onepage&q=%22tiur%22%20armenian%20god&f=false - (Encyclopedia of Ancient Deities) p. 468 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14D:5CE7:8E72:2169:8A9E:7CDE:A34C (talk) 22:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Iranian reflex - Thraetona/Fereydun versus Azi Dahhaka edit

Here is a source you might find interesting:

https://www.academia.edu/43330695/A_New_look_at_The_Story_of_Jams_Fled_Glory_and_Fereyd%C5%ABns_%CE%B8ra%C4%93taona_Functional_Role_A_new_Perspective_in_Dumezilian_trifunctional_hypothesis_English_translation_ 179.218.212.120 (talk) 00:00, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Vestige of the myth in the Balkans? edit

Hello, Alcaios. While researching some other topic, I found an article by one Lyubomira Parpulova. She mentions a Bulgarian myth about a samodiva (a fairy of South Slavic folklore) being used to create the world: "her eyes become lakes, her body a tree, her hair the clover". Could it be a vestige of the PIE creation myth?

https://ojs.lib.uom.gr/index.php/BalkanStudies/article/view/5097 - p. 431

189.122.57.144 (talk) 11:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi. The idea of a sacrificed being whose body members are used to create natural elements is indeed frequent in Indo-European mythologies. Alcaios (talk) 12:48, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Reply