Talk:India at the Cricket World Cup

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Magentic Manifestations in topic March 2024: Changes to the page

1996 squad edit

Who is that Mukesh Kumar (Extra man) in the 1996 squad? Some Vandalism ?
Anish Viswa 12:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Why 1996 World Cup is missing in the list??? edit

Hello,

I would like to know why 1996 world cup is missing in the list after 1992? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhanarajasekarank (talkcontribs) 18:42, 27 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Rapid Changes after the Final edit

Many editors began changing the entire layout of the page after the conclusion of the latest edition of the tournament, which was not needed. This created chaos as references were removed and photographs were not inserted properly. Please discuss before making changes. The maintainence tags have not been removed yet. Also, a gallery could possibly be added which would have the pictures of statistic holders. Pharaoh496 (talk) 15:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

March 2024: Changes to the page edit

@Pharaoh496 Welcome back! There were multiple tags on the page. It was written like a fan page and a commentary without any sources for most of the sections. I have rewritten as a summary for each world cup from a neutral POV with proper sources. For an article this long, I believe, it has been sufficiently summarized.

If you have specific queries, you can discuss the same but do not do wholesale revert because it removes all the sources and the formatting as well. If you have concerns regarding specific content, that can be discussed and it is easier to add content to this (as you have saved the previous page and if anything you feel is required to be added additionally), now that the format has been standardized and sources are already there for the mentioned parts.

For splitting the pages, there is no previous norm that exists to split the pages for World cup performances be it for other teams in cricket or in other sports such as football (unless it becomes notable for a particular event). Only club/team which play seasons are accorded standalone pages. We had already discussed this, if you want, you can initiate a discussion on the WP:IND page for comments. You can probably have a detailed page for performance at every world cup where you can detail it if required. But a summary page does not need any more details as I already believe there is too much detailing in the current version where every match result has been portrayed. Wikipedia is indeed not a WP:NOTNEWS. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • My point is this. Lets say that there is a tournament every four years. There will eventually come a time when this page becomes too big to fit all the information. A new norm can be created where a country's tournament performance is included. Lets say wikipedia still exists in 2083. Do you think it wont become too long?
  • WP:IND has a grand total of zero interested people willing to do anything about this article, and my discussion was archived twice.
  • I think currently you have half the match details required, and you have columnised the squad members n good faith but it is not a good look. Similarly, the contracted table design is also not a bright look, and it currently lacks important details.
I will not revert the change for now, but i want to propose a way to handle this page and related articles.
  • For all countries, we have a world cup page, going like this.
  • Brazil at the FIFA World Cup etc. This includes an overall record, all wins stats records etc.
  • A page similar to Delhi Daredevils in 2012, you can see I have chosen this example as it is a Good Article. What im trying to say is that this system has scope and is much better to record details of recurring tournaments by teams.
  • These can be categorised by sidebars or navigation boxes with each page per team, for example, "Australia at the 2023 Cricket World Cup" can include details of the team at that tournament, with appropriate infoboxes as well as pictures and details, per team per edition, and then a "Australia at the Cricket World Cup" which already exists containing a systemic record such as the Brazil example I gave above.
Other than that I appreciate the work that you have done on the page but would appreciate if you hear this out. Pharaoh496 (talk) 10:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
My views on this.
  • The overall page needs to be a summary of the performance with relevant statistics. As I had mentioned before, for a summary page, even detailing the teams and the match wise summary seems to be an excess, leave alone detailed stories which is exhausting and difficult to scroll through and serves little purpose. For the time being, I have kept a short summary of the matches and team roster as I am not sure there is much details about India's performance as such in the relevant world cup pages. Team roster and results can also be simply transcluded from the relevant pages as well if there are such details existing for all world cups.
  • I am fine by the idea of creating separate pages to reduce the burden on a single page provided it has enough information to warrant such a page (Again it should not become a fan page or news!). Obviously, now that there have been multiple world cups, the page will continue to increase in size and it might be prudent to split it given the criteria is satisfied (similar to performance at various multi-sport events like Olympics, Asian games etc.). But as there is no precedence on this, you can start a discussion and if there are not much comments or responses on that, you can document the same, assume there are no objections and then be WP:BOLD and go ahead.
We can probably discuss later on what needs to be in the summary page once the content split is done.
Magentic Manifestations (talk) 07:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply