Talk:Incidents at European amusement parks

Content should be transferred to theme park pages

I think the existence of this page serves principally to keep the lists of accidents out of the pages for the theme parks. This serves the interests of the theme park operators, obviously, keeping the accidents nicely hidden unless you're looking for them.

I suggest that the content from this page should be transferred to a new "accidents" section in each theme park, retaining only a list page.

Ijackson (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:10, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Zodiac Thorpe Park capybara incident - is this real or a hoax?

Tried to look into this as I'm confused as to how a capybara could have got into the park, as they are not a native animal to the UK. The only source for this section doesn't mention a capybara, and instead describes a support snapping. Does anyone have a source that confirms the presence of capybara or is this a hoax edit? I cannot find any online references. 2A04:4A43:456F:DFB7:0:0:125:2C1F (talk) 14:12, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Have now reverted the edit on 25th April which apparently edited this as vandalism. 82.15.196.46 (talk) 10:19, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Kyoto Express?

Do you mean the Tokaydo Express that operated near the South Entrance? 16:25, 6 January 2007 PMBO

You tell me. Here's the quote from the cited article:SpikeJones 20:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

In July, the Space Invader roller-coaster at Blackpool was closed after Christopher Sheratt, 11, died when he fell out of a carriage. Six years ago, two Scots were among six visitors injured when two cars collided on the same ride. In 1995 a passenger on the Kyoto Express failed to obey sitting instructions and died after he stood up and his head crashed into a steel girder.

I don't believe there was ever a ride named Kyoto Express at the Pleasure Beach. There was the Tokaydo Express which was removed in 1997, I'm not sure on the reason though. Pettythug 21:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Again, you tell me. The quoted article (text included above) was very specific. If you have something verifiable specific to the 1995 accident, please add the info and cite the article.SpikeJones 23:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Considering that a websearch for 'kyoto express' and 'blackpool' brings up only that article, and this wikipedia page, I think it can be assumed the article is incorrect. Pettythug 19:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I do recognize your point, but I hate to sound like a broken record on this when I say, "if it's wrong, then find an actual news article that will replace the given footnote and allow the information to be correctly expanded". If the accident never occurred, then that's another matter entirely.SpikeJones 19:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

There has never been a ride named the Kyoto Express at the Pleasure Beach. To my knowledge, the Tokaydo Express was not removed due to accident either, I was under the impression it was just moved because of age. Anyone can feel free to correct me there though. The article is clearly mistaken. I see no reason to keep the info about this accident on the page unless another reference can verify that it actually happened. Pettythug 20:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

In the above cite, "Kyoto" is definitely a typo or eggcorn for "Tokaydo", the actual name of the actual ride, which in turn was probably an eggcorn for "Tokyo". I seem to remember hearing of this accident, but if no citation can be found, so be it.

The article also states that the 2014 incident on the Grand National was the first officially-recorded incident; but according to something I heard circa 1990, the reason the ride was fitted with lap bars (probably some time in the 1970s) was because of a fatal incident when a (probably drunk) rider tried to leap from one train to the other as they were going up the lift hill, only to fall. This sounds like a good addition to the article, if a reference can be found. — Korax1214 (talk) 03:02, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Powerpark

My post about the death in PowerPark,Finland was deleted.Why? (05:08, 10 July 2007) 86.140.210.103

Primarily because there was no citation (in proper WP format or otherwise) for the event. SpikeJones 11:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Naming accident casualties

My edit to add the name of the casualty of the Hydro accident was reverted "rv name per WP policy" but the only relevant info I could find on naming policy was the privacy one, which wouldn't apply. The edit added information that pertained to the accident, the information is verifiable and cited, why the rv? It wasn't a minor edit because it added content, what am I missing? Nexxxeh (talk) 12:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

The WP:BLP policy has been discussed in relation to victim's names on the various Incidents articles. See Talk:Incidents at Six Flags parks for the bulk of it (and link to additional info). In a nutshell, if the victim's only claim to fame is that they were killed/injured at a theme park, that does not make them notable enough for being named in a WP article. Fabio being hit in the face by a bird while riding a coaster? His name can be used as he is a public figure. A girl whose foot was cut off by a cable? Respect her private life. The easy test: if the victim merits a WP page on their own outside of the incident, then they can be named in the incident articles. SpikeJones (talk) 13:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha. Thanks :) Nexxxeh (talk) 16:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Legoland

Resolved

Parts of the sentence "unidentified woman" and "The victim, a park employee" don't make sense. And the reference isn't available anymore. If possible please add another source and adjust the text. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.85.199 (talk) 22:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

As always, google is your friend. I updated the ref for you so you don't have to bother. SpikeJones (talk) 01:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! 87.162.85.199 (talk) 03:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Surprising omission — Battersea Funfair

OK, I know the introduction to this article says "This list is not intended to be a comprehensive list of every such event, but only those that have a significant impact on the parks or park operations, or are otherwise significantly newsworthy." Which probably explains why it doesn't include the man who died of a heart attack shortly after getting off the Nemesis at Alton Towers, not long after it opened.

But for many people in the UK, the most memorable amusement ride incident was in 1973, on the Big Dipper at Battersea Funfair, which if I remember correctly was because the lift cable snapped and then the anti-rollback mechanism failed. Several people died as a result, and this incident led to the closure of the park at the end of the 1974 season. — Korax1214 (talk) 23:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, it was actually 30 May 1972 (according to several online articles), not 1973 as I thought. The articles all agree with me that the closure date was 1974. Also, "the closure of the park" refers to Battersea Funfair (which was an amusement park, not a funfair), not to Battersea Park which contained it. — Korax1214 (talk) 00:41, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Power cut at Alton towers 13-04-10

I was at Alton towers April 2010 there was a powercut, people were stuck on rides and water was distributed, Articles from reliable sources say it lasted 40 Min's but It took 40 mins to re activate the rides to get the patrons to safety it took 1:30 hr in all here is some links to source the info from, I don't know where to put them

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03-06-11: contact: Sammas.freelance@googlemail.com 92.5.235.230 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC).

References

References

I note several injuries or accidents which have no source to verify the details, or that they even occurred. It would be too easy for a vandal to create a hoaxalicious incident, or to get the year or the ride wrong when thinking back to something they heard about years ago. I suggest that new unreferenced incidents be removed promptly, and that ones which have been in the article for some appreciable time already without references be tagged so that those with access to local news reports can provide references, and that failing that they too should be removed after a few months have been provided for researchers to do their work. If the incidents rise to the level of having a significant effect on the park, as the article introduction suggests, then there are likely to be news articles about them (the park shut the ride down, or paid a large damage judgement, for instance). An article like this is not supposed to be an indiscriminate collection of information, so "two drunks got in a fight" or "a piece of metal fell off the ride but didn't hit anyone" seem like good incidents to remove even if verified. Edison (talk) 22:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

By all means, if you see something that's not verifiable or not notable, feel free to delete it. --McDoobAU93 22:53, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

News reporting is an amusement park incident?

An editor is trying to add some potential fallout from an interview with a park official, where the interviewer was apparently so aggressive that people thought the interviewer should be fired. As this is not an incident involving amusement park guests or a ride malfunction (speaking purely of the interview itself, not the incident that precipitated the interview). If and when there is an article on this specific incident, it might be warranted. As this is a summary article and not a full description of every component of the incident, it's inappropriate. --McDoobAU93 16:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

It seems to me to be wholly and uniquely related to this incident and is widely reported, including in foreign news outlets such as the one used as the source The Huffington Post. Maybe you think "the incident" has to be restricted just to what happened inside the theme park. In which case such things as limb amputations should not be mentioned either? This seems to be an overly narrow view of the whole story. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:17, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Hardly. Injuries to the victim are directly related to what occurred on the ride. Again, this is a SUMMARY, not a play-by-play description. If you feel there is need for an article for the incident, such as 2015 Alton Towers "The Smiler" crash, then more details are warranted. --McDoobAU93 16:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, maybe a separate article would be justified, given the seriousness of the incident. But unless or until that happens, I'd argue that a single sentence on the Kay Burley interview would be entirely encyclopedic and justified. If Burley, or maybe even Varney, had been sacked, would that have not convinced you either? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

If Sky News had been completely shut down as a direct result of this, then maybe it'd be warranted. Just because a news story is loosely connected to an incident, it's not part of the incident itself. For details on this, please see WP:NOTNEWS. --McDoobAU93 16:42, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh well, we can hope. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

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Summerland

Any reason the fire at Summerland isn't mentioned. It has its own page: Summerland Disaster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GS(v) (talk • contribs) 20:44, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Update on 2015 Smiler incident

Can someone make an update to the Smiler incident in 2015 at Alton Towers. Some of the victims, since the last update in 2018, have recieved payouts in the civil courts.

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/alton-towers-crash-smiler-2020-3525400.amp 222.113.182.40 (talk) 23:02, 11 January 2023 (UTC)