Talk:Imperial anthems of the Ottoman Empire

Had to do a complete rewrite on this article. Not only did it need a cleanup as per the previous template, but, after doing some research, I found that the lyrics on the page don't seem to have been used as an Ottoman anthem at all! (They may not have even been around during the Ottoman days, but I haven't definitively placed the year yet.)

If the original poster can *please* give some more information about their sources (I appreciate the reference to my site but please at least add a link to the proper page on my site!) this page and all its viewers would be grateful! (I coudln't even find those lyrics at berberber.com, as claimed!) --Canuckguy 04:20, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Ceddin Deden

On 23:37, 24 September 2005, 70.26.146.38 seems to have simply added to this page some lyrics in Turkish (after the stub links as well, stubs properly go on the bottom), with no information as to what they are. 70.26.146.38, please contribute some more information on this, a search from my part tells me that an alternate name of this song is the Mehter Marşı, leading me to believe that it was an anthem for a ruler possibly nicknamed "Mehter" (but I coudln't find any like that in Ottomon history of the last 100 years of its existence, when an anthem was most likely).

Here are the snipped lyrics, for those who are curious:

CEDDİN DEDEN

Ceddin deden, neslin baban Hep kahraman Türk milleti Orduların, pekçok zaman Vermiştiler dünyaya şan.

Türk milleti, Türk milleti Aşk ile sev milliyeti Kahret vatan düşmanını Çeksin o melun zilleti.

Hüseyni İsmail Hakkı Bey

--Canuckguy 22:40, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

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better interpretation

Well, correct me if I am wrong, but the way I percieve the lyrics the english translation should be;

(seek) Your ancestors, your grandfathers, your generation, your father

Turkish nation have always been valiant,

Your armies, many times

Have been renowned throughout the world

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Turkish nation, Turkish nation

Passionately love (your) freedom

Overwhelm the enemies of your (free) motherland

And make that cursed ones feel abjected

so that's how I changed it. I added the words in brackets for a better interpretation--ombudsee 11:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Mehter Marşı

Mehter Marşları are the military marches that has been used since the very early days of Ottomans. Some of the lyrics to these marches are not very old though. Recent additions have been done in the last century since not all of the historic ones were not preserved. I am not sure whether they can be called as national anthems. I haven't checked it yet but if there is not any page devoted to these, I think it is something essential.

--Harput 21:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree, it is an essential article. If there isn't a Wikipedia article for it, I would suggest you (Harput) and/or 70.26.146.38 (unless you're the same person ;) ) create one. Once the Mehter Marşı page is expanded and information added to it, it might be easier to determine whether it would qualify as an Ottoman anthem or not. If so, we have a ready page to link to from this one! Agreed? --Canuckguy 02:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi guys, I am not sure whether anyone is still following this page. The above is the Janissary march and has never been used as an imperial anthem. Indeed the first imperial anthem -- written by Giuseppe Donizetti comes after the Janissary corps itself was abolished.

In any case, I just merged janissary music into Ottoman military band, and the lyrics and more detail (and context) about this march is available there. Therefore I am removing the lyrics from this page. Regards. --Free smyrnan 19:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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