Talk:Ignatius Sancho

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Nick Cooper in topic "Male property owner"

Dukes of M edit

These are in a mess - He meets the 2nd, who then dies from tortute, then later he becomes valet to the "newly-created" 1st! Johnbod 11:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

- ok 2 creations, now clarified. Johnbod 11:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Marriage and children? edit

A recent documentary on bbc radio 4 mentions that he married and had six children. This imo should be on this page, and any information on the lives of his children if it's known. --86.135.125.93 (talk) 02:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Birthplace edit

"although Jekyll tells us that Sancho was born on a slave ship, Sancho himself seems convinced that he was born in Africa. For a more detailed reading of Jekyll's Life of Ignatius Sancho, see my article '"The extraordinary Negro": Ignatius Sancho, Joseph Jekyll, and the Problem of Biography', originally published in The British Journal for Eighteenth-Century Studies in 2003, that shows that Sancho was almost certainly not born on a slave ship” http://www.brycchancarey.com/Carey_BJECS_2003.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.80.219 (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Legacy edit

The entry includes this passage:

"http://www.bbc.co.uk/devon/content/images/2007/02/27/portrait_of_an_african_203_203x152.jpg

"The iconic "Portrait of an African" (probably Ignatius Sancho) Attributed to Allan Ramsay (1713-1784) Oil on canvas 61.8 x 51.5 cm c.1757-59 A full account of the attribution to Ramsay and identification of Sancho is contained in the article: The Lost African published in Apollo, August 2006."

The attribution, by John Madin, only works if the well-known Gainsborough portrait is not Sancho, because the portraits are plainly of two completely distinct individuals. (And as it happens, we know positively that the Gainsborough portrait is of Sancho, painted at Bath along with his employer and his wife, the Duke and Duchess of Montagu.) The only trait Sancho and the subject of the Ramsay portrait have in common is African heritage--which I suppose trumps ever other observable feature.

A good thing Mr. Madin is not a forensic expert for the FBI. Rpforbes (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Annuity and inflation - online calculator edit

This edit "(about £7000 in 2020)[1]" is original research. The reference given - for conversion of income to a 2020 equivalent - is an online inflation CALCULATOR, not a published source. Simple conversions are problematic over such vast time spans. A source that specifically states that £30 would be around £7000 in today's (2020) terms is needed. Otherwise the statement should be removed.122.105.94.165 (talk) 10:20, 20 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Abolitionism? edit

Can we have a bit more on this? All we have is a single line in one letter. It is interesting because despite the article saying he was writing at the height of the debate on slavery, the mid 1760s is actually very early in the abolitionism movement. It is only around that time when the Granddaddy of British abolitionism, Granville Sharpe, becomes interested in the cause. LastDodo (talk) 16:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

"Male property owner" edit

There is an issue with the fact that the page makes reference to Sancho specifically as a "male property owner" in relation to his voting rights. Prior to the Reform Act 1832, single (unmarried or widowed) women who met the property-holding requirement could and did vote in Parliamentary elections. Sancho could vote because he met the property-holding requirement; him being male was not relevant, and implying that it was a precondition is profoundly misleading. Nick Cooper (talk) 20:40, 3 October 2023 (UTC)Reply