Talk:Iberian wolf

EN?

in the Portuguese wikipedia it appears as an endangers specie EN__-_-_-__ 16:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

History

It reached the region from France, probably from a reintroduced pack. The second part of this sentence is definitely wrong. There is no evidence for wolf releasings in france, neither in the alps or the pyrenees. Everything speaks of a natural immigration. See also the latest official reports of wolf status in France: http://www.oncfs.gouv.fr/events/point_faune/mammifere/loup.php I will change this in the article. --77.239.33.183 (talk) 23:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

This has only been suggested as a new subspecies. It is not recognized as such by current taxonomy.

This article is out of line with the current taxonomy, it seems. Look at this page, http://www.bucknell.edu/MSW3/browse.asp?id=14000738. There is no mention here of "C.l.singatus", and just because one expert publishes a paper saying that this is a separate subspecies from Canis lupus lupus, doesn't mean we at wikipedia should go ahead and create a taxobox for the article and write in the lead that it is, in fact, a separate subspecies. We would have chaos on Wikipedia if we followed that, as experts are forever suggesting changes to the taxonomy in papers and we as Wikipedians (whatever we are in real life) cannot be the judge of such matters. They go through proper channels; the International Society of Mammalogists or whatever study all the published papers and then elect someone to write it up with careful peer review in an official volume such as Mammal Species of the World. Then we at Wikipedia can report such things as "Canis lupus suchandsuchus is a subspecies of Gray Wolf." I will hold off for some comment for some time, but then I will be removing the taxobox and re-writing the lead and any relevent parts to reflect this. Chrisrus (talk) 16:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Hola!

I have added a link to a copy of Cabera A, 1907 Los lobos de Espana. Perhaps a fluent Spanish speaker might have a look at pages 193-198 - especially the last few pages - to held distinguish these wolves for the article. (I fear that my attempt with the use of a language translator does not pick up the nuances of the language as it was spoken over a century ago.)

Additionally, I have concerns about where the distribution map came from and how accurate it is. William Harris • (talk) • 22:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Subspecies

On Wikipedia, the authority for what is a recognised mammal species is MSW3, as can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mammals#Guidelines. This has been directed by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life#Animals under the subsection Mammals. New editors may not be aware of this. Wikipedia must maintain a standard if it is to be accepted as a proper encyclopedia, and MSW3 is that standard. GENBANK is not a taxonomic authority, as is stated on the GENBANK website (and yes, I am the editor that placed the GENBANK reference into the article). Finding obscure claims of subspecies is not acceptable. I maintain an entire list of questionable Canis lupus taxons over at Subspecies of Canis lupus#Disputed subspecies and species. Until MSW4 is released, signatus will need to wait and see what it holds.

Additionally, the Izquierdo reference for the claim of "Spanish wolf" will require a page number if it is a book or a weblink if it is an article (I can assist with the formatting if you can locate it). The zoopark weblink will be acceptable for this article while it is at quality=C level but will be removed should the article improve in quality (that will be done by some other editor and not by me).

If you are a Spanish speaker and would like to add to this article in a more constructive manner, perhaps you might assist with my request directly above this section - what description makes this wolf different. William Harris • (talk) • 21:29, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Map please

A colour-blind-accessible map portraying the regional information in the Distribution and conservation section would be really helpful. (Presumably monochrome would be good enough to show where the Iberian wolf is present.) ~~ Frans Fowler (talk) 18:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Andalusia

If my understanding is right, it has recently been reported that this wolf is now extinct in Andalusia.[1]https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/01/wolves-declared-extinct-in-andalucia-spain-aoe At present the WP article mentions neither its presence nor its extinction there. Perhaps someone with a firmer grasp of wolf subspecies than I have could update the article, if appropriate. ~~ Frans Fowler (talk) 19:00, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

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