Talk:ISSF shooting events

Finals

International and some large national 50m rifle events have finals.. not just in the Olympics...

No, but only in the Olympic events. If the non-Olympic 50 m Rifle Prone for women includes a final (as it does in national Swedish competitions, for example), that is a deviation from the ISSF rules. The same goes for the 300 m events, CFP, STP, women's Double Trap, and all running target events. I'm adding the possibility of national deviations to the article. -- Jao 12:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you're saying. I misread it the first time.

Event names do not follow manual of style

I believe that the article names linked from here do not conform to Wikipedia:Naming conventions and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters). Specifically, words like "rifle" and "pistol" are not proper nouns, and the "m" abbreviation ought to be spelled out in full in an article title. Therefore, for example, we should have 25 metre rapid fire pistol instead of 25 m Rapid Fire Pistol. For comparison, the article about the sprint event in athletics (track and field) is at 100 metres. I would like to make these changes, but will hold out for a few days in case discussion is needed here. Andrwsc 21:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The names of events are Proper nouns, because they describe a unique entity (a specific event) and as such the word should be capitalised according to the first point under Wikipedia:Naming conventions#General conventions just as you would capitalise 'Democratic Party' etc. You will also find it capitalised in other sources such as the ISSF website itself. --Deon Steyn 07:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I fully agree that they are proper nouns. The same situation exists in swimming, athletics, gymnastics, cycling, etc. which have specific event names, yet we have articles on high jump, parallel bars (gymnastics), etc. I did see that the ISSF website capitalizes these names, so I admit there is a source to support that, but it still looks awfully strange to me. Of all the Olympic sports with articles on individual events, the shooting sports are the only ones which maintain this kind of capitalization. I am having a difficult time understanding the justification to make this sport unique. Andrwsc 08:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Taking the small sphere of Olympic sports as an example, few have multiple word titles and of this small group many also capitalise properly, for instance Giant Slalom skiing, Super Giant Slalom skiing. I would definitely argue that high jump (athletics) and Parallel bars (gymnastics) are incorrect as opposed to the other way round, because they refer to specific sporting events, not just two physical bars that happen to be parallel, in the latter case. The example of swimming actually conforms to this with most sources also called a specific event 100 m Butterfly (no such wiki page though) not 100 m butterfly, because these aren't unrelated common nouns, but a single concept. The abbreviation and standards for metres is an exception here that might be misleading, which results in 100 m for the event instead of 100 M. --Deon Steyn 09:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to investigate this a bit more, and I think we need some more opinions. I'd like for these pages to all be consistent, so whether it is the shooting pages that need renaming, or the athletics and gymnastics pages, doesn't matter to me. It's the consistency that is important. One comment on the shooting pages for now, however, is that I really think that "m" needs to be expanded to "metre" or "metres" (in lower-case, of course). Again, I acknowledge that the ISSF site uses the abbreviation, but I don't think that alone justifies using an abbreviation for a Wikipedia page name. In athletics, 100 m redirects to 100 metres, which is the right thing to do, in my opinion. Andrwsc 17:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Former names

Not sure if the events were ever called that, but even it they were those are still the names in usage, and refer to equipment / weapons type (standard, sport, free). you can clearly see that from (some) official abbreviations of disciplines.

for example in 50m prone rifle article: "Women's rifles may weigh up to 6.5 kilograms (14 lb), as opposed to 8.0 kilograms (17.6 lb) for men, but after the switch from standard rifles to sport rifles this is now the only difference in equipment." And you can see from abbreviations for men and women, men use free rifle and women use sport rifle.

So this should be corrected 213.149.62.86 (talk) 10:00, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Target Sprint

There should be some mention of ISSF Target Sprint in here as it's a contested event with ISSF-sanctioned competitions. However, I'm not sure if it should go in the table as it is neither an Olympic or World Championship event (being run at it's own parallel World Tour events), or whether it just gets a paragraph down the bottom describing it. If it does go in the table, is it a rifle event, or in it's own category (since it's distinct in being non-precision - hit/miss scoring - which distinguishes it from every other rifle event). Hemmers (talk) 10:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)