Talk:INS Vikrant (2013)

How is INS Vikrant powered?

A nice addition would be an explanation of the ship's power source. It is presumably not a nuclear reactor, since that would yield a range greater than 8000 km. (And would likely have been mentioned already.) TypoBoy (talk) 23:55, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

It uses four General Electric gas turbines (jet engines). Listed under Propulsion. But I guess you are right, perhaps it should be mentioned somewhere in the article itself since Nuclear Powered Carriers have been the norm for many decades now. It will also be interesting to know if they are powering it directly or through the generation of electricity which then powers electric motors. 173.206.160.193 (talk) 02:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

C'mon, Indian Wikipedians

Get us a nice picture :) Or convince somebody to release one under a free license... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd try my best as I'm quite close to Cochin. I can make a trip and try, but I wouldn't hold much hope as it is a Naval Station protected under the Official Secrets Act. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:14, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

You could always email to ask for access. They can only say no. pro (at) cochinshipyard.com Formerip (talk) 12:24, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

That's a good idea. You may want to say something along the lines of being a volunteer journalist for international news website Wikinews and international encyclopedia Wikipedia. If the carrier has some other pictures floating around the net, particularly at some newsites, point to them and say that you only want a "pretty picture", nothing that would violate any secrecy. Hopefully you'll be able to get press treatment. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:15, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, lemme just clear a few things up. The official secrets act is a bit painful to find a work around to; Read more about it at Official Secrets Act (India). Getting in touch with any Indian entity over email is tedious, nobody bothers replying. I remember the hard work we put in trying to get information on Heliports in India while getting Transport in India to GA in 2009. I had contacted the DGCA, and got a response after close to two years which stated that they couldn't share the info with me. The best thing I can do is get to Cochin which fortunately is just ~200 odd kilometre from where I am presently located. So, I guess, I can get a snap from the harbour myself. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:29, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Have there been no photos of the launch in the Indian press? Surely there's been mention of it in the print and broadcast media; the launch of the first domestically-built aircraft carrier would surely seem to be a matter of immense national pride. I can't imagine that there have been no official photos released to the press? 72.0.15.8 (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think we could use a press image. It wouldn't qualify for fair use, because it is possible in principle to create a CC image. Formerip (talk) 14:40, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

There has been press coverage, these photos are possibly under Fair Use [since they are copyrighted] and can be uploaded to ENWP under the same terms. Official photographs, again, are copyrighted, very few of the govt of India's works are in the Public Domain/Licenced under a Creative Commons licence and thus cannot be used. Again, I will try Flickr, and if unsuccessful will do my best at Cochin myself. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:51, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

What does Vikrant mean?

Vikrant is not very helpful in finding out. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:49, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Vikrant is a Sanskrit word and means courageous. See this for reference. I am not sure where to add this info to the article. Anir1uph | talk | contrib 02:53, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd add it in the lead. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:26, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

We've decided to not have Indic scripts in Indian articles as per WP:INDICSCRIPTS. I've modified your edit and have included it in the lead. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

FYI Floating out

If anyone wants a few citations regarding the floating out....[1], regards. Twobells^t@lk 19:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

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Use of "crore" for counting money

I am not sure this is appropriate in an international English text. "Crore" is essentially very local dialect - acceptable in India, but not easily understood outside. I do not want to edit this without consent agreement though. Refdoc (talk) 11:18, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Hmmmmm you do have a point here. CAPTAIN NOBODY (talk) 17:03, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

There is no issue as long as we keep rupees in lakhs and crores and convert dollars in millions and billions. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 18:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with Vikrant-class aircraft carrier

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There is only a single ship in the class. Since the late 1990s, ADS was planned to be built as a single example. Vikrant-class aircraft carrier article had briefly classified the follow-on ship IAC-2 or INS Vishal as part of the same class, but this was not supported by any reliable source. Vishal has been planned to be 50% bigger since at least 2012. Now, Vishal is planned to be a 65,000 tonne CATOBAR carrier having little commonality with a 40,000 tonne STOBAR carrier. Indian Navy just calls them as IAC-1 and IAC-2 and has never classified them as part of the same class.

This means that both articles address the exact same subject material, except a single paragraph in the "Background" section of the class article about India's plans in 1989 for two light carriers. This can easily be merged into the article on the ship itself. —Gazoth (talk) 15:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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• Strong support per reasons given above. BobNesh (talk) 18:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support per above. Have the class page redirect to the ship page. - wolf 21:40, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support - I've thought this for a long time. A pair of carriers, one of which is more than 60% larger than the other, do not a ship class make. Parsecboy (talk) 23:57, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support - Originally intended to be multiple- ship class, but no longer. Given that the class article is older, we may want to swap it here for the more extensive history. - BilCat (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

  I doubt that would be worth the extra trouble and confusion. We'd need to do a round-robin move and at the end of it, the {{Merged-from}} tag placed on the ship article would say that the class article was merged into the ship article, but the reverse would actually be true. I think it'd be easier to use this article as the base, since the largest section in both articles, "Construction" is more developed here. On the other hand, content that is more developed in the class article is mostly self-contained in sections. —Gazoth (talk) 23:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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About the exact Full load displacement of The carrier

Being an Indian even after watching the news and browsing Google, I too am confused about what the exact displacement of the vessel is as the lower limit is 30000 tonne and upper limit is 47000 tonne. Please make sure that the article on Wikipedia has 3-4 citations for verification of the displacement of the vessel. Special request to administrators, editors etc. CAPTAIN NOBODY (talk) 17:02, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

As low as 30000 tonnes isn't possible. 40000 tonnes standard is okay and found in many articles. But nothing about full load. Somewhere between 44k-45k tonnes is logical, but no specific full load displacement is available anywhere. No article I read has the exact data. SReader21 (talk) 05:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

About a deleted data

There was some data last time I read, about some theft on the ship of important data. It's no more. Can anybody confirm why? SReader21 (talk) 05:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

The normal reason that such information would be removed from a Wikipedia article is that it was unsourced, improperly sourced, or so minor as to not really be noteworthy in an encyclopedia article. Articles like this one tend to be magnets for information with those problems, and have to culled quite frequently. BilCat (talk) 06:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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Where INS Vikrant will be conducted?

It should be installed in the Bay of Bengal to give strong through back to the Indian Navy. 47.15.198.116 (talk) 06:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Indian Navy flag

Indian Navy today changed its flag, so want someone to replace all the flag of India Navat to current one.Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 12:51, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Vikrant displacement is 47400 tons.

There has been reports in the past few days detailing Vikrants displacement to be 47400 tons. A simple search with 'Ins Vikrant displacement ' shows these links. 2607:FEA8:4DC0:2950:AD85:BBF4:36E7:9D45 (talk) 22:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal to create new page for "Vikrant-class aircraft carrier" and one for IAC-II

Another Vikrant class IAC II aircraft carrier will be ordered soon. Both of them will be in the same displacement category with some modifications. So 2 new articles has to be created for the ones above just like other Naval ship class. ^[2] Aviator Jr (talk) 14:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)