Talk:Hydrogenosome

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Mitochondria origin

Great article - clear, informative & useful - thanks! Just one minor point ( and apologies if Im wrong).

The final sentence in the current article - "This finding was the final confirmation that hydrogenosomes are indeed derived from mitochondria. [4]", citing, amongst others, Boxma et al, Nature 2005 434:74-79, makes a generalisation that seems to go beyond the current evidence.

Such a claim would be fine if limited to the hydrogenosome Nyctotherus ovalis, based on the Nature paper.

However, in the same issue of Nature, an article by Michael W. Gray Nature 434, 29-31 (3 March 2005) emphasises that the lineage of other hydrogenosomes such as Trichomonas vaginalis is much murkier. Consequently, he says, the story of the origin of hydrogenosomes is far from complete. In this Nature article, Gray concedes " it seems that nature can evolve a hydrogenosome from a mitochondrion with relative ease". However, at the same time, he points out that some studies of Trichomonas suggest it is not derived from mitochondria, but more remotely shares a common ancestor.

I'm no expert at all in this area, but it looks as though the article could be improved by insertion of the word "some" (or "at least one"). But I'll happily bow to anyone with real knowledge of the field. -- Reflection

Differences from mitochondria

Pyruvate is take by the hydrogenosome and H2, CO2, acetate, and ATP are produced.NOTE THAT IT LACKS CRISTAE THAT PRESENT IN MITOCHONDRIA + LACKS TCA IN PALSMA!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.181.0 (talk • contribs)

Some labels in the image are misspelled

Pyruvate in the image is spelled as "pyruvat". Same idiosyncrasy for succinate. In fact the name of file is "Hydrogenosom", again missing the e.Chibibrain (talk) 05:10, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I saw that too. Fix? Bearian (talk) 03:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

It is not misspelt. It is a German image. It would be nice if someone made an English version of it, but there is no sense "correcting" images with foreign languages to English. Mlewan (talk) 05:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Jargon

This article contains a lot of jargon without an explanation as to layman's terms and should probably be dumbed down for laypeople. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.236.186.149 (talk) 16:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

^You've got that right! Jaysus! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.106.225 (talk) 10:35, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Good point from last two commenters. I'll give it a go. By all means correct me if I get anything wrong.Reflection (talk) 14:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I found a lot of the sources for this article were unavailable or behind walls of some kind. I also agree with the other comments that the article felt very jargon heavy without much else to back it up or explain. I have overhauled the citations to try and make sure they are open. I have also rewritten a bit of the article to reflect the changes in citations. I tried to keep as much of the original writing as I could, but a lot of it was backed by sources that were impossible to access for most people, so I unfortunately had to replace a good portion of information with that from other articles. I have removed the section "In simpler terms" as it was not backed by any sources. I also added a section called ATP Synthesis and put the old introductory section there as the old intro was mainly information regarding the enzymes of the mechanism rather than introducing the Hydrogenosome. I am still learning how to use Wikipedia editing, so if you see something is wrong or I made a mistake, please let me know or help me fix it if you can. Thanks Gjschall (talk) 21:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)