Talk:Hungaria asteroids

blizzard of inter-stellar asteroids ??

If mars & jupiter have been ejecting asteroids, from our solar system, into inter-stellar space, for billions of (earth) years; and if those ejected asteroids have space speeds comparable to earth's planetary orbit speed (30 km/s = 10^-7c); then ejected asteroids could have "crawled" hundreds of light-years through space, since our star system first formed. And, if every other star system has been producing planets, and ejecting asteroids; then the entire disk of the Milky Way galaxy is a "shooting gallery" of ejected now-inter-stellar asteroids (and comets). Some of those inter-stellar bodies would cruise into (say) Molecular Clouds, where within which stars form. Thus, inter-stellar asteroids (and comets) could "seed" the formation of subsequent generations of stars & planets. Deep inside earth, mars, jupiter, and the other planets, small amounts of extra-solar material may reside, reflecting the influences of extra-solar, pre-primordial material, which "stumbled" into our per-solar nebula, possibly helping trigger the condensation of the sun and/or planets. 66.235.38.214 (talk) 18:20, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

To be classified as Hungaria

The following asteroids are Hungaria (per Spratt 1990) but as of this writing do not yet have articles on wikipedia. Once the articles exist, they should be so noted:

• 1235 Schorria
• 1355 Magoeba
• 1453 Fennia
• 1600 Vyssotsky
• 1656 Suomi
• 1727 Mette
• 1876 Napolitania
• 1919 Clemence
• 1920 Sarmiento
• 2035 Stearns
• 2047 Smetana
• 2048 Dwornik
• 2049 Grietje
• 2074 Shoemaker
• 2083 Smither
• 2131 Mayall
• 2150 Nyctimene
• 2272 Montezuma
• 2449 Kenos
• 2491 Tvashtri
• 2495 Noviomagum
• 2577 Litva
• 2735 Ellen
• 3022 Dobermann
• 3086 Kalbaugh
• 3101 Goldberger
• 3169 Ostro
• 3266 Bernardus
• 3353 Jarvis
• 3400 Aotearoa
• 3447 Burckhalter
• 3483 Svetlov
• 3635 Kreutz
• 3854 George
• 3873 Roddy
• 3880 Kaiserman
• 3940 Larion
• 4116 Elachi
• 4125 Lew Allen
• 4142 Dersu-Uzala
• 4232 Aparicio

And from other papers:

• 4440 Tchantches [1]
• 5641 McCleese [2]
• 6249 Jennifer [3]
• 6384 Kervin [4]

WilliamKF (talk) 21:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

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Name change

How is the name of the article singular (asteroid) when every reference in the article to the subject is plural? I tried to rename it (move) but cannot, as a redirect with the plural name exists. How do we fix this? RobP (talk) 05:34, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narky Blert:,

could you solve this issue? Thank You!(KIENGIR (talk) 03:13, 29 January 2021 (UTC))

@Rp2006 and KIENGIR:  Done. I WP:ROBIN swapped the two pages, and added a hatnote for anyone who might be immediately looking for 434 Hungaria. I also retargetted Hungaria (asteroid) from 434 Hungaria to here. The links-in look OK.

I note that the article title in most other languages includes "group" or "family". Narky Blert (talk) 06:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narky Blert:, Thank You, but please do one more step, some contradictive mistakes remained:

- the hatnote you set for 434 Hungaria - "Hungaria asteroid" redirects here" now became false, since it redirects to this article, on the other hand I don't understand where from you took that "For the largest in the group" since the 434 Hungarian is just a namesake; the charachteritics of this asteroid have been projected to akin asteroid groupings, which are not located the same belt or location, so any inclusion of a group is just theoretical by given charachteristics and hence not by any local comparison.

Thus, to solve this please:

1. Redirect "Hungaria asteroid" and "Hungaria (asteroid)" to -> the 434 Hungaria article

2. Replace the hatnote in the 434 Hungaria article to -> "Hungaria asteroid" and "Hungaria (asteroid)" redirects here. It is not to be confused with Hungaria asteroids.

3. Modify in this article the hatnote to -> "For the namesake asteroid which from the group was named, see 434 Hungaria."(KIENGIR (talk) 06:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC))

@KIENGIR: I've deleted the hatnote on 434 Hungaria (my bad) and amended the descriptive text on the one on Hungaria asteroids as suggested. The problem with Hungaria asteroid is that it has over 600 links-in from articles which refer to an asteroid as a "Hungaria asteroid". That seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME for members of the group. Every one of those links (and some articles contain over a dozen) would have to be changed. Narky Blert (talk) 06:59, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narky Blert:,

then I propose an intermediate solution. Let "Hungaria asteroid" here, but "Hungaria (asteroid)" should redirect to 434, as the latter indicates clearly it is meant for a distinguished subject. As well, amend the hatnotes accordingly then, please.(KIENGIR (talk) 08:11, 29 January 2021 (UTC))

@KIENGIR:  Done. Narky Blert (talk) 08:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for getting this done! RobP (talk) 12:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)