Talk:Hugh Hastings (playwright)

Requested move 20 May 2020

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Moved with modifications. Hugh Hastings will be moved to Hugh Hastings (playwright); Hugh Hastings (died 1347) will be moved to Hugh Hastings (soldier, died 1347) because his son was also a soldier; Hugh Hastings (died 1369) will be moved to Hugh Hastings (soldier, died 1369); and Hugh Romilly will be redirected to Hugh Hastings Romilly. BD2412 T 18:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

• Hugh Hastings → Hugh Hastings (writer)
• Hugh Hastings (died 1347) → Hugh Hastings (soldier)
• Hugh Hastings Romilly → Hugh Romilly

– No primary topic, the daily average of views for the writer is four while the soldier receives seven which is not mush of a view gap. Google Search also gets 61k hits for "Hugh Hastings Romilly" while "Hugh Romilly" gets 181k, and there is no other biography article of "Hugh Romilly" on Wikipedia via the red link. Convert Hugh Hastings into a dab page. Jerm (talk) 04:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:05, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Use Hugh Hastings (soldier, died 1369) and Hugh Hastings (soldier, died 1347). It's always a very poor idea just to use dates as a disambiguator without saying what the person was. -- Necrothesp (talk) 19:00, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support, however do we need to rename Hugh Hastings (died 1347) as it is already sufficiently identifiable. There could be other Hugh Hastings who were soldiers. Regards Newm30 (talk) 02:31, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Newm30: These are all the Hugh Hastings I could find on Wiki, so I don't think there's another soldier. Jerm (talk) 16:50, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jerm and Srnec: - I have found references to at least two more Hugh Hastings off wiki who were soldiers in medieval times. One went on crusade and may be worthy of an article. I will try and research further and if worthy create an article. Regards Newm30 (talk) 23:50, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hugh Hastings (died 1369) and Hugh Hastings (died 1386), son and grandson of Hugh Hastings (died 1347) are both notable.

@Newm30 and Srnec: If another soldier who's named Hugh Hastings is created, then both soldiers can be distinguished like so "Hugh Hastings (soldier, born "year of birth"). I don't think we should get ahead of ourselves though until an actual article is created, or at least, created after this RM is closed. Articles can be moved again. Jerm (talk) 00:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support first and second, although alternatives to the vaguely-defined Hugh Hastings (writer) and Hugh Hastings (soldier) could be Hugh Hastings (playwright) and Hugh Hastings (seneschal of Gascony), analogous to other seneschals, such as Thomas Coke (seneschal of Gascony). Oppose third. All references depict the full name, Hugh Hastings Romilly, which was also his pen name. All of his numerous writings were published under the name Hugh Hastings Romilly. Hugh Romilly should be indeed a bluelink, but only as a redirect to Hugh Hastings Romilly. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
• Per Newm30, oppose Hugh Hastings (died 1347) → Hugh Hastings (soldier). Neutral on the rest. Srnec (talk) 00:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.