Talk:Hubertus Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Dane in topic Requested move 25 May 2018

Sourcing? edit

Email message from unknown author to Darryl Roger Lundy? Huh?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 12:51, 31 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've now updated the article and included a reliable source for the info on the Coburg family heretofore attributed to an anonymous Peerage.com source. FactStraight (talk) 01:54, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Duke of Albany edit

Hello User:BlueMoonlet I disagree with your edits on articles about the Dukes of Albany. The legislation is very clear. People who needed permission for their marriages under the Royal Marriages Act 1772 and not obtain them have conducted marriages that can have no consequences under British Law. This has recently been discussed again on this talk page. I'm going to revert your edits for now, awaiting a secondary source that indeed explicitly puts the question in doubt. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 01:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

The matter was furthermore clearly demonstrated when the 2nd Duke of Cambridge conducted a legal marriage in contravention of the Royal Marriages act 1772. His sons were not only excluded from the succession to the throne but were also not eligible to inherit his peerages. In other places on wikipedia this is mentioned here and here. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 01:36, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Conversation continues here. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 17:30, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 25 May 2018 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page not moved. There was no consensus to move this to a new title. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 01:22, 2 June 2018 (UTC)Reply



Hubertus Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und GothaHubertus, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha – English title is preferred over German. 192.107.120.90 (talk) 14:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • Speedy keep The current title is the proper name of the subject, not a title that might be translated. We would not translate the name of Whitey Herzog and title his article "Whitey Duke." This request is out of order. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 21:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. It's a name not a title. The rationale is something like: children of morganatic marriages do not inherit the titles of their forefathers, and the head of the Saxe-Coburg family thought that Hubertus's grandparents married morganatically and so did not recognize the children's titles. (Yes, I know there's no such thing as a morganatic marriage in the modern era, but by that argument, there's no such thing as a prince of Saxe-Coburg now either.) For the same reason, the head of house excluded this branch of the family from the succession. DrKay (talk) 12:15, 26 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • Move to Prince Hubertus of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (born 1961). While I support the title in English, I agree with the others that this is not a title. I also suggest moving Ernst Leopold Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha to Prince Ernst Leopold of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. --2601:183:101:58D0:B5CD:42EE:E561:79B2 (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
You agree that it is not a title, which means that it doesn't need to be translated into English. It seems inconsistent that you then support moving. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 06:43, 1 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.