Talk:Hu Jia (activist)

When was he arrested?

The New York Times article cited in the references says he was arrested on Thursday, that is, 27 December. An article published by The Guardian seems to confirm this date. But the other site in the references, Human Rights Tribune, states he was arrested "yesterday". As the article was published on 31 December, this means he was arrested on 30 December. Anyone knows which of these dates is the right one? -- Leoadec ^(talk) 13:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Hu Jia receiving funding from US Government

According to the NED, a US government funded entity, Hu Jia's Beijing Zhiaixing Information Counseling Center received funding of $179,113 in 2006, from NED as well as US State Department:

http://www.ned.org/grants/06programs/grants-asia06.html#china&

How should this fact be edited into the article? Bobby fletcher (talk) 04:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

It's being two months and there seems to be no objection to this fact, so I'll go ahead and add it to the article. Please feel free to improved the article, but please do so without removing this fact. Thanks!

Bobby fletcher (talk) 05:44, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Additional cite to verify above fact

Aizhixing was formerly named Zhiaixing, where the NED/State Dept grant was given:

http://www.cecc.gov/pages/general/newsletters/CECCnewsletter20061208.pdf

"(Zhiaixing), formerly called the Aizhixing Institute of Health Education"

Please discuss here before removing this verified, relevant, notable fact. Bobby fletcher (talk) 02:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I didn't delete your precious fact, I just moved it. Next time look at the article before you go ahead and blindly edit it. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Please do not remove the funding section. This fact should be called out on it's own, as I am researching other funding source as well, thanks. Bobby fletcher (talk) 02:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Can you give a reason why the funding section should be on its own? As of now, there is only one sentence about funding, so having a section devoted to it would be poor style. Also, the mention of funding easily fits into the section on Hu's activist activities. Finally, your attempt to make a single section for nothing other than to say Hu has gotten money from the U.S. (especially since you are calling the section Source of funding rather than just Funding) smacks of POV-pushing—trying to just just the section heading to imply something that you know would get deleted if you said it explicitly. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

When you undid my edit, you also undid formatting changes and addition of clarification about the name of the Zhiaixing Center.

Also, please don't go around telling other people not to revert your edits without discussion, when you were the first one who came and reverted mine. You have done this before—you revert others' work and then say "no reverting without discussion" in attempt to protect your own. I will remind you that you have already been blocked once for that kind of disruptive editing. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Please see below example for separate funding section:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporters_Without_Borders

Bobby fletcher (talk) 03:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

That is a large section with a lot of information (5-10 refs, I think), and in an article that does not have an existing section where that information would fit naturally. This article already has a section where that information can go (Activism). Also, RWB is a large organization with large worldwide operations, so there is a lot more to say about their funding than just Hu's organization. I agree that funding should be mentioned, but not in its very own section—it's undue weight. The information we have in the article about funding is not even about Hu's funding in general, but only about the funding for a single organization with which he is affiliated. Finally, notice that the section in Reporters Without Borders is called Funding, not Source of funding (which is what you have been trying to insert into this article). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to change the section to "Funding", but you removed it. Now this fact is in a sction called "Activism" which is not relevant to the fact. Bobby fletcher (talk) 03:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I removed it for the multiple reasons given above. And, once again, I didn't remove any information, I only moved information out of a section. I removed a section heading, not a fact (in fact, I added a fact). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The funding was for funding the activism of a group he was affiliated with. So it's relevant. You're going to have to think of a better reason to include a frivolous extra section than that, because the way you had the section included before was verging on POV-pushing. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Gibberish deleted

"In response to Hu's nomination—and fellow Chinese dissident Gao Zhisheng's nomination—China's foreign ministry has stated it hopes the "right person" is selected to win the Nobel Peace Prize, claiming that some past laureates were unsuitable choices.It is reported later that Nobel Peace Prize will never belongs to the persoen like Hu who are so young and absolutely have no contribution to the world peace for sure."

Deleted. Duct tape tricorn (talk) 15:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

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