Talk:Huế

Change first picture

I suggest we change the first picture in the article, with one of the more beautiful ones below. They givea better impression of the city. Tridungvo 04:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Page move

I moved this page here from Hué, removing the accent (it can't be just plain Hue, because that's already taken). While the Vietnamese word does indeed have accents, there are two, not one: it's spelled Huế. I don't think ế is a possible character for a page title, and I think it would be best to have either all or nothing when it comes to accents. The é part represents a tone and the ê part represents a different sound, and I would prefer to avoid displaying one without the other - it gives the appearance that we're marking tones, but doing it wrong (as opposed to not trying to do it at all). Moreover, I think that if one is to be displayed, it should probably be the ê - that represents a difference in the actual sound of the letter, which English speakers are more likely to pay attention to than the tone. This is, of course, just my opinion - feel free to disagree. -- Vardion 02:53, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I was in Hue a few months ago. In the Imperial Palace, there is very little that remains from before. The Vietnamese have rebuilt some of the buildings, but still, the majority of the area is a vast open site where beautiful buildings one stood. --- Feripe

The Chinese characters are also the traditional version. They should be changed to the simplified

No, they shouldn't. Vietnam hasn't used Chinese characters in more than 100 years and the Simplified Chinese characters have no relevance to Vietnam. DHN 19:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Slanted image

We definitely need to replace that slanted image of the main entrance with a more upright one. It might make for interesting photography, but it hardly belongs that way in an encyclopedia. Maybe if someone could rotate it and crop the resulting corners off? – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs, blog) 15:49, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

I gave it a try — the result is:

File:HuePalace.jpg

There's quite a lot missing due to necessary cropping, unfortunately. -- Vardion 20:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Population

Does anyone know the population figure for the city? --192.88.124.205 02:48, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How is this pronounced? -Rolypolyman 03:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is the Chinese "shunhua" instaed of just "hua"? 218.102.71.150 13:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

During the Vietnam War, American soldiers pronounced it like "way", not that that necessarily means anything. D Boland (talk) 14:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Intro

I see that the chinese was removed. Also the name of the vietnamese language is in vietnamese transliteration? I am not sure if that is a good idea. And although the ogg is ok, maybe it should be included lower down in another section. I think that the introduction should be clean.--Filll 12:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

The Vietnamese name wasn't "transliterated" because that's how it's used officially. See Vietnamese alphabet. DHN 16:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Documentation?

Page currently says, "In the Tết Offensive of 1968, during the Battle of Hue, the city suffered considerable damage not only to its physical features, but its reputation as well, most of it from American firepower and bombings on the historical buildings as well as the now infamous massacre at Huế." Is there any documentation for this? Since the Americans were, IIRC, in Hue, being attacked from the outside, can we safely say that ALL of the damage was done by "American firepower and bombings" without providing some documentation? CsikosLo 18:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

The massacre mas committed by the communists. DHN 19:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Separating sections

I feel that 'Hue' and 'Complex of Hue Monuments' should be separated into two different articles. 'Hue' is a city itself; while 'Complex of Hue Monuments' is about the ancient monuments located in 'Hue'. I don't think it makes much sense to call the entire city a UNESCO World Heritage Site, which seems to be used.

For example, calling the city of Agra a UNESCO World Heritage Site just because it contains the Taj Mahal is wrong. Therefore, I hope someone would separate these two sections. As I am merely a tourist of Vietnam and not a local, my knowledge about this might not be as deep as some others, so forgive me if I have written some incorrect facts. Thanks! Angcr (talk) 15:48, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree, and I've added a {{split section}} template to the "Historical monuments" section to encourage this. I might do it myself later when I get the chance, and if no one else objects. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 19:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Wards

Some articles discuss wards of Hue, but they're all redlinks. Can someone add a list of the wards, from vi:WP? Badagnani (talk) 05:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

As of 2006, Hue is composed of 20 wards and 5 communes, whose names and locations are shown here. DHN (talk) 07:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

People

The new "People" section needs a little work to comply with Wikipedia's style guidelines. Here are a few comments, distilled from a comment I left on Anhhpham's talk page: Some of the new text is written in a essay style, rather than an encyclopedic style. For example, the first few sentences of the "People" section give an exposition of the topic at hand in a personal, informal style, using literary devices such as wordplay, rather than simply stating the facts. While this may be appropriate for an essay, it is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. For another thing, the new text lacks citations or references; if the text is original research, then it should be refactored and sourced to make it verifiable by reliable, published sources. I'm willing to take on some of this work when I can (alongside some of the other projects I've got going), but I just thought I'd leave a note to others to explain the tags I've added. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 22:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I've rearranged this section and merge a few others in to create a "Culture" section, since most of these bits had to do with culture anyway. It's looking good overall. I've tried to do some copy editing to fix the tone problems, but one area that still stands out is the lack of cited sources in the text. We really need citations for everything that's said here, otherwise the whole lot risks getting deleted as original research. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 19:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

=Battle of Hue

Shouldn't it be mentioned on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.8.245 (talk) 23:58, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Translation of Perfume River from Chinese characters

The Vietnamese words, Sông Hương have officially been translated as “Perfume River”. However, as cited in the Wikipedia article “PerfumeRiver”, the Hán nôm, Chinese characters (simplified 香江) or traditional 香河 mean “Fragrant River” [1]. The first character 香 is fragrant [2] and the second 河 river. The Chinese characters for perfume are 香水. Similarly Hong Kong 香港 was named the “fragrant harbor” [3].

References 1. Wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfume_River 2. Translate.google.com 3. Wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong Tfailmezge (talk) 14:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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To add to article

Basic information to add to article: etymology/origin of the city's name. 76.189.141.37 (talk) 19:24, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Done, but need an etymology for Thuận Hóa (順化). 76.189.141.37 (talk) 19:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

With some research, it seems to be the case that Thuận Hóa (順化), Huế's original name, was a patronizing name given to a conquered/subjugated land, in this case just wrested from the Chams by the Viets. In comparison, Urumqi was given the name 迪化 (Dihua, "To enlighten") by the Chinese, and Hohhot was similarly given the name 歸化 (Guihua, "To return to civilization"). 順化 might translate to something like "becoming obedient." 76.189.141.37 (talk) 03:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

List of computer games etc

This is simply undue weight, all the historical events and places are far more important than the city being mentioned in some combat computer games — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bumbubookworm (talk • contribs) 11:31, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

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No education section

Isn't Hue a major education center? Ilya Kogan (talk) 03:27, 26 May 2023 (UTC)