Talk:How to Train Your Dragon (2010 film)/Archive 1

Archive 1

DVD Release Date

I have heard some rumors about potential release dates. Different ones I've seen include July 27th and October 17th. If someone can pin down an exact date, it would be great if the article were updated to reflect this. 75.68.122.30 (talk) 08:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Who's Asterid?

Does anyone know anything about this character? Anything at all?Sb113 (talk) 19:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

When I saw the preview I presumed her to be Camicazee. --Kopaka Teridax (talk) 03:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Astrid, not Asterid. She is the love-interest of Hiccup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdle09 (talk • contribs) 08:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Astrid is a very blonde Viking girl. She is in the movie but not in the book. Her voice is provided by America Ferrera - a black-haired, tan-skinned Hispanic actress. A lovely bit of irony. Das Baz, aka Erudil 18:35, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Sea lions

Two of my roommates work at S.L.E.W.T.H.S. http://slewths.mlml.calstate.edu/slewths.htm and they tell me that the "voices" of the dragons in this movie were put together from samples of their sea lions barking and making other sounds. I would love to add this to the article, however I haven't been able to find any references for this online. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TransOceanic (talk) 00:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Title

The title has apparently been changed to "Dragons" last minute. An attempt to match the inexplicable success of "Cars" and other simply titled CGI movies (whose titles escape me) no doubt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 01:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, looks like they changed it back. Weird. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 02:36, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Has it? The voice-over in every TV spot I've seen lately refers to it as Dragons 3D, regardless of the title on the screen. Pumpkingrrl (talk) 04:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Now it's changing back and forth, but on the ones that say 'Dragons' there's a blink-and-you-miss it shot of the full title. I think it's just to save time on shorter spots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 00:26, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Internally they call it 'Dragons.' That's how the movie will be known inside Dreamworks. 173.74.130.117 (talk) 13:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The Video Game

Has anyone forgot to create a new section about this movie going to come out as a new a game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.52.60.214 (talk) 15:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed plot description

I'd like to introduce a revised plot description, with a few changes to make it more comprehensible:

Hiccup is the son of the Chief, Stoick the Vast, on the island of Berk. Hiccup's village is periodically beset by dragons which steal from their stock of sheep. Hiccup works as an apprentice to the blacksmith, Gobber the Belch.

One night, during another dragon raid, Hiccup hits the never-before-seen Night Fury dragon with an automatic net launcher that he built himself, but nobody else in the village sees it. Attempting to get proof, Hiccup travels into the forest where the dragon may have fallen. He comes to a small canyon and sees the Night Fury tangled in his net. After struggling with himself, Hiccup can’t bring himself to kill the helpless dragon and sets it free.

Stoick enrolls Hiccup in dragon training with the other village youths and leaves with a search party of Vikings to find the Dragon’s Nest, in order to wipe them out and finish the war. After being told that dragons are vicious, Hiccup returns in doubts to the forest. The Night Fury is still trapped in a canyon, and is missing a part of its tail from the previous crash landing, leaving it unable to fly properly. Hiccup decides to befriend the dragon, which he names Toothless, and eventually fashions an artificial tail wing and control harness, enabling Toothless to fly again. Using the observations he makes with Toothless, Hiccup manages to gain superior control over every dragon in his training - to the admiration of his peers and the chagrin of Astrid, who becomes increasingly suspicious.

Stoick and his army return battered and tired, without having found the nest. His spirits are lifted, however, when Gobber and others begin congratulating him on Hiccup's success in dragon training. Feeling a chance to bond with his son, Stoick honors Hiccup with a Viking helmet made from half of the breast plate of Hiccup's deceased mother.

After Hiccup earns the right to kill a dragon in front of everyone, he decides to leave Berk with Toothless. Astrid follows him to their hideout and discovers his friendship with the dragon. She tries to run back to the village, but Toothless kidnaps her and Hiccup asks for a chance to explain, and they take her for a ride. During their flight, they get caught in a herd of dragons carrying food and follow them to their nest. There, they discover that the dragons steal food to feed a much larger dragon that eats them if they do not provide enough food. After they leave, Astrid wants to inform the village of the nest's location, but Hiccup decides against it in order to protect Toothless and Astrid agrees to keep quiet.

The next day, during Hiccup's graduation battle, he throws down his weapons and tries to show everyone that dragons are not as bad as they seem. Stoick shouts to stop the battle before Hiccup can continue, and the agitated dragon attacks Hiccup. Toothless hears Hiccup scream and races off to Berk to save him, but is quickly overpowered and captured by the villagers. Stoick confronts his son angrily at learning about his son's friendship with a dragon. Hiccup accidentally tells him that he has been to the nest, and Stoick decides to use Toothless to lead them there, ignoring his son's desperate warning about the nest's true danger.

The Vikings set sail with Toothless chained. After initial dejection, Hiccup decides to use the dragons that the Vikings use for dragon fighting practice to fly to the nest. Astrid gathers Tuffnut, Ruffnut, Fishlegs and Snotlout to help, and after a crash course in familiarization, all mount the training dragons and set off after the Vikings.

As the other Vikings arrive, all the dragons flee the island and the giant dragon sets all of the boats on fire, including the one on which Toothless is chained. Hiccup and the others arrive, and while he goes to free Toothless, the others try to distract the giant dragon. As the boat is sinking, Hiccup tries to free the still-chained Toothless, but nearly drowns, but Stoick saves both his son and Toothless. After a fierce aerial battle, Hiccup and Toothless send the giant dragon plunging into the ground head-first, killing it, but Hiccup is knocked out and falls into the explosion; Toothless dives in to save him. Stoick searches the rubble for his son, but only finds Toothless. At first, everyone thinks Hiccup has died in the explosion, but Toothless reveals that it saved Hiccup by wrapping him in its wings.

Hiccup reawakens in his home some days later, to find Toothless by his bedside. As he is getting out of bed, he realizes that his left leg was lost in the fire and has been replaced with a prosthetic made by Gobber and outside, he sees to his surprise that Vikings have invited the dragons to live in the village. Hiccup is welcomed back as a hero and receives a kiss from Astrid. Hiccup and Astrid ride their dragons through the newly reformed Berk as the war between dragon and Viking ends.

134.93.42.120 (talk) 10:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to add some detail of Astrid's development with the follow modifications of one of the paragraphs:

After Hiccup earns the right to kill a dragon in front of everyone, he decides to leave Berk with Toothless. Astrid follows him to their hideout and discovers his friendship with the dragon. She tries to run back to the village, but Toothless kidnaps her and Hiccup asks for a chance to explain, and they take her for an initially terrifying and then exhilarating ride. During their flight, they get caught in a herd of dragons carrying food and follow them to their nest. There, they discover that the dragons steal food to feed a much larger dragon that eats them if they do not provide enough food. After they leave, Astrid wants to inform the village of the nest's location, but Hiccup decides against it in order to protect Toothless and Astrid agrees to keep quiet for the night in hopes that the boy can devise an acceptable solution.

--kchishol1970 (talk) 18:28, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I think the plot description is much too long, considering how simple (not bad thing) the movie actually is. I'd suggest a much shorter plot ~ more concise if you can.

E.g. Hiccup, son of the Viking Chief Stoick the Vast, is not quite the average Viking adolescent. Though his goal is to kill his first dragon - and consequently acquire a girlfriend - because of his un-viking like qualities and appearance he isn't accepted...

maybe less of a scene by scene summary ...

110.175.214.140 (talk) 08:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Masterful job on the plot...but I'd make the point that the film does, both at the beginning and the end, that it is only the Vikings perspective on the dragons that changes them from 'pests' to 'pets.' This is a real Zen thing to me...akin to the cockroach in Men in Black who looks up as Tommy Lee Jones avoids crushing him underfoot, and says "Damn decent of you." Kids' movie or not, this story is one of the richest since Disney, and even Walt would have been jealous of the animation. Also, there are TWO concurrent "Ugly Duckling" fables running in this wonderful film...Hiccup, who blossoms from ugly red-haired stepchild status to Dragon Rider Hero, and his 'mount,' Toothless, who is an INVERSE ugly-duckling--the terrible invisible black mysterious Night Fury who's also just a big goofy cuddlebug who likes his back scratched, and is loyal to Hiccup to fight all comers to protect him. This simple movie touches some amazing deep chords in our collective unconscious, in work of art that is the equal of Bambi or Dumbo or Pinochio. And one more helpful suggestion: Hiccups' moral epiphany occurs when he spares Toothless caught in Hiccup's own net--can't kill in cold blood, despite losing his tribe's and his Father's respect. Toothless loses his tail BECAUSE Hiccup shot him down with his Dragon cannon..so Hiccup is repairing damage HE's done. He says "I did this..." Hiccup becomes a Viking when he takes his beliefs and acts upon them, in this case, sparing a dragon instead of slaying one, at the risk of becoming an outcast. Despite tradition, convention, religion et al, Hiccup and Toothless NEED each other to live out their destinies. They are synergy--bigger than the sum of their (damaged)parts. Amazing existential epiphany. You should also stress that not only is Hiccup a Hero to the village, he's gained the respect of his Father Stoic, who says, gesturing to his healed son, "Turns out all we needed was a bit more of THIS!" By marching to his own drummer, and challenging his Father's most fundamental beliefs, and having the courage of a Viking to follow his convictions, Hiccup has gained his Father's respect, also every child's wish. Can you tell I love this movie? Busstopwillyg (talk) 02:28, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Current version fails to note the importance of brains over brawn. Fails to underscore Hiccup's desire for his Father's respect. Fails to assign responsibility for Toothless's injury to Hiccup. Incorrectly states leg was replaced, when it was Hiccup's left foot. Incorrectly states dragons help to rebuild Berk. Fails to underscore the change in Viking perspective of dragons as pests vs pets!Busstopwillyg (talk) 19:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Here's my revised version

The island of Berk has been plagued by pests--dragons that steal livestock and burn their homes. Hiccup, the slight, bright, awkward son of the village chieftain, Stoick the Vast, uses a cannon contraption he invented and shoots down a dragon he thinks may be a Night Fury, a rare dragon nobody has ever actually seen, but all fear. Hiccup locates the dragon in the forest, hoping to kill it as a fierce Viking, thereby winning his Father's respect. But Hiccup finds he is unable to kill the helpless animal, and instead cuts it free, and the dragon disappears into the forest. Meanwhile, Stoick assembles a fleet to seek out the dragons' nest, but before he leaves, he places Hiccup in dragon-killing classes taught by Gobber, the village blacksmith.

Searching the forest, Hiccup finds the dragon trapped in a deep cove; the dragon's tail was injured, preventing it from flying normally. By trial and error, Hiccup discovers a way to earn the dragon's trust and begins to feed and care for it. He names the Night Fury "Toothless," for its retractable teeth. Soon after, Hiccup fashions a make-shift saddle, harness and prosthetic tailfin that allows him to pilot the dragon in flight. Toothless comes to trust Hiccup, and reveals his gentle side to the Viking. Hiccup is able to transfer his knowledge of dragons to the other species of dragons at school, conquering each with familiarity rather than force, and becomes the star pupil, much to the dismay of Astrid, a girl in dragon training upon whom Hiccup has a crush. Hiccup wins the competition and gets the chance to kill a dragon in front of the entire village.

Astrid, suspicious of his sudden skill, follows Hiccup to the secret cove and is shocked to discover Toothless. She tries to attach the dragon, then runs to tell the rest of the village, but Hiccup coerces Astrid into flying with Toothless. At first, Astrid is terrified, but then begins to enjoy the romantic flight through clouds, Northern Lights, and gliding over the village of Berk. Toothless unexpectedly joins a flock of dragons and takes the pair straight into the dragon's nest, where the truth behind the dragons' constant raids of their village is revealed - a gigantic dragon, the Red Death, lives off the food they bring back, else it feeds on the dragons themselves. The pair return soon after the battered Viking fleet arrives home and Stoick learns of his son's brilliant exploits in school.

Hiccup is put to his final exam the next day, but when he throws down his weapons, and tries to show the village the dragon's true gentle nature, Stoick stops the fight, inadvertently angering the dragon and endangering Hiccup. Toothless hears Hiccup's cries and flies in to save him, but is captured himself. Hiccup, attempting to explain his actions, reveals that he has found the dragons' nest. He tries to warn his Father of the danger, but Stoick disowns his son and sets off with another fleet, using a restrained Toothless as their guide. Astrid inspires Hiccup to concocts a rescue plan to save the Vikings with the help of the school's captive dragons and his classmates.

The teens come to the rescue on their flying dragons after the Viking fleet has already uncovered the gargantuan Red Death dragon. Hiccup's classmates distract it while Hiccup goes to save Toothless, who is chained to a sinking ship. Hiccup and Toothless almost drown, but both are saved by a now-repentant Stoick. Hiccup and Toothless lure the giant dragon into flight, and in some daring aerial maneouvers, Toothless fires a blast to the flammable gas inside its mouth and forcing the Red Death into an inescapable fiery tailspin into the ground. Attempting to flee from the exploding dragon, Hiccup falls off Toothless, and Toothless dives into the fireball after him.

After the explosion has settled, Stoick finds Toothless, who reveals an unconscious Hiccup safely wrapped in his wings. Hiccup wakes up back on Berk, finding an eager Toothless greeting him. As he leaves his bed, he discovers his left foot has been replaced by a prosthetic made by Gobber. His grief is turned to joy however, as he steps outside to find the Vikings and dragons living peacefully and coexisting as welcome and helpful pets. Hiccup has saved the Vikings, wins a kiss from Astrid, and most important, regains his Father's respect and pride! Hiccup discovers his rebuilt mechanical foot links perfectly to Toothless' tailfin controls, and the Viking teens race through the village skies on their dragons to celebrate the new natural harmony in Berk. Busstopwillyg (talk) 19:16, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

David Tennant?

This mentions David Tennant, but as far as I can tell, he's not in this... not on IMDB —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.67.137 (talk) 06:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

imdb isn't the end-all-be-all. You can view the film yourself and see him in the credits (primary source) or you can do a google search and find other secondary sources which affirm the same thing. riffic (talk) 13:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Dragons' sex?

I believe the gender of the dragons in the movie is never totally made clear. I think we should therefore stick with calling them "it" on the plot description. What do others think? --John (talk) 03:01, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Hiccup refers to Toothless the Night Fury as a "him" several times during the movie, so we can at least assume Toothless is a male dragon. The gender of the other dragons in the movie really isn't an important plot element, which is why they didn't bother drawing genetalia on the dragons. I think many parents would find the movie highly unsuitable if Toothless or any other dragon rolled over and exposed their cloacae for their children to see; It would be awkward at best with kids asking what it was during the movie.

TL;DR, Genetalia / gender of dragons is unimportant, just refer to them all as male to be consistent. 66.68.116.78 (talk) 05:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

The only dragons whose gender should be in question are the individual heads of the Hideous Zippleback (Ruffnut+Tuffnut=male and female) and the large dragon, which has been called Green Death (book and soundtrack), Red Death ('Art of' book and internal studio name), Queen Dragon, or some long Latin-sounding name. And as for genetalia? Please; don't even go there. I've never seen dragons in fiction to ever have anything like that, and as far as I know, repitles and lizards don't have visible genetalia. That's really dumb, especially for a professional animation studio to include. (And just for the record, I agree with the previous poster that Toothless should be referred to as male and that the other dragons are likely male as well.) dogman15 (talk) 07:06, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

In almost any legend worldwide, dragons ransom kingdoms to regularly send them beautiful virgins or face dragonfire. (But of course the brave warrior-prince arrives just in time, when it would be the little princess' turn). That makes it highly probable dragons are he, unless they are lesbians... 91.82.38.240 (talk) 22:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Plot section

There's always a natural tendency to over-write these and include every last detail. See Casablanca (film) for how it ought to be done; rather than adding details we need to hone what we have. Of course, I am open to anything being raised here. --John (talk) 05:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

For instance, a brief mention about how Hiccup has a crucial moral epiphany at Astrid's prodding about why he spared Toothless in the beginning sounds appropriate to explain a major plot point of why he suddenly decides to ride out after his father's fleet to save it from the Green Death.--kchishol1970 (talk) 23:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Whose opinion is it that this is a crucial moral epiphany? --John (talk) 17:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you even seen the film? :( ...I thought plot summaries almost always don't need citations, since it's a given that the primary source is the thing that's being summarized. -dogman15 (talk) 22:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes I have thanks. I don't recall anywhere in the film it being stated that it was "a crucial moral epiphany". So whose opinion is this? --John (talk) 22:48, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I've also seen the film. I agree that "crucial moral epiphany" is a good way to describe it, the trouble is that it would be OR for us to say it unless someone else said it first because the film doesn't say that it's a "crucial moral epiphany". HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Seen the film about 12 times, and the actual "moral epiphany" occurs when Hiccup spares Toothless from his own knife, deciding he can't kill in cold blood, even if it means losing his Father's respect, some possible Viking nookie, and his own status as Viking hero. That's the movie's message, IMHO. My opinion, that's whose opinion. Busstopwillyg (talk) 20:06, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Dmalterman, 17 April 2010

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In the "Zippleback" section, Zippleback is misspelled Zippelback or Zippel. Dmalterman (talk) 02:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Done --Darkwind (talk) 05:16, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

The third?

How is Hiccup 'the third' if his father has a different name? Czolgolz (talk) 04:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

with logic like that you won't make it very far in your career as a dreamworks writer! riffic (talk) 08:55, 2 May 2010 (UTC) He is called hiccup the third because there were to hiccups before him, not necessarily his father.

The Vikings Have Their Tea?

Anybody care to explain where that scene comes from the soundtrack? Post-credits? 173.28.115.207 (talk) 01:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, even though talk pages aren't supposed to be discussion boards, I'll answer by saying I do think "The Vikings Have Their Tea" played after "Sticks and Stones" during the credits. dogman15 (talk) 02:15, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Movie and Book

There should be an article on the book, and a comparison of the book with the movie. Das Baz, aka Erudil 23:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

There already is an article on the book. At the bottom of the article is a section on the film and its differences with the book. dogman15 (talk) 23:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you for the information, Dogman. I added it to this article. Das Baz, aka Erudil 19:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Track on soundtrack

Maybe it should be mentioned that N 25."The Vikings Have Their Tea" in the list doesn't seem to appear in the movie. Also there's no end credit music piece that many of us find highly enjoyable. I guess it was just too hard to put it into the more-than-70-minutes album. 178.120.114.148 (talk) 16:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

People have been changing "Green" to "Red" in the soundtrack list. While the Red Death is the official name of the large dragon, the title of that track on the soundtrack is given as "Battling The Green Death", even though that's not the name of the dragon. In a previous edit summary of mine, I said "Even though the official name of the dragon is 'Red Death', the soundtrack explicitly gives the title of this track as 'Battling the Green Death'". If you think this should be changed to "Red" against what the CD box says, discuss it here. dogman15 (talk) 17:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

I think there should be a separate page for each breed of dragon. Nadder, Night Fury, Scauldron. I think there should be sequels - or something. One page is not enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.28.41 (talk) 00:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

• No - One page is plenty, and a call for a fictional character in a fictional universe of a single movie does not warrant a separate article. Oh, and wikipedia doesn't work on voting, it's the weight of the arguments that are taken into account.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 00:54, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I think that when the sequel comes out, if it introduces more of a back story and more dragons etc. the need for a separate article would arise to focus solely on the dragons, but at the moment we have HTTYD.wikia and there's really not much in each of those pages that isn't in the film (e.g.) Scauldron shoots boiling water at its victims. 86.151.60.136 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:02, 3 January 2011 (UTC).

Top 25 Animated movies (IGN feature)

IGN added how to train your dragon as the no. 16 best animated movie link, should it be added to the article somewhere?

Wall-E was called no. 1 in TIME magazine and that was added to the article, but even though they're not naming how to train a no. 1 in this list maybe it'd be useful to add this info. --Exrain (talk) 00:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• That can be allowed in the Critical Reception section. Jhenderson777 (talk) 19:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Red Death/Green Death/Queen Dragon/Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus

Red Death is the proper name of this dragon in the film. Green Death is the proper name of the same dragon in the book and on the soundtrack, cut titled "Battling the Green Death". Queen Dragon is a nickname, and Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus is the full scientific name of the dragon within the book/film universe. http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/Seadragonus_Giganticus_Maximus http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Death (I'm sorry that I can't find more official sources.)

Can we agree to call it the "Red Death" in all parts of this article except in the soundtrack listing? Please? dogman15 (talk) 04:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Update: Chris Sanders said in the DVD commentary that the official film name for this dragon is "Red Death", so I guess that means the soundtrack name of "Green Death" was just just a reference to the book. dogman15 (talk) 04:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I really wish some other people would talk here. As it is, as soon as my copy of the DVD comes in the mail and I can listen to the commentary to confirm, I will change every instance of "Green Death" in this article (except in the soundtrack) to "Red Death". That, and find a reliable source online. dogman15 (talk) 09:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Just to explain my earlier edit, the plot section refers to "Red Death" throughout, except for this single instance. The reversion states "as per the soundtrack", but the changed line was merely clearing up quite an obvious continuity error in the section. Perhaps if the reverter had actually read the change instead of jumping straight to a revert they'd have noticed. Owenj2o (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Which I then fixed by reverting the IP's edits. Nakon 17:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah, apologies, this did not show when comparing the revisions. May I ask why the name has been reverted to Green though, as the above comments have cleared up the Green/Red argument, which is why I presume the article had already been edited. Owenj2o (talk) 17:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

If anyone is interested in hearing this for themselves, "Red Death" is mentioned as the dragon's name a little bit past 1 hour and 23 minutes into the film's audio commentary. dogman15 (talk) 20:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

My neighbour Toothless

The current article fails to observe how the design of Toothless, the night fury dragon, comes direct from "My neighbour Totoro", a work from the acclaimed japanese anime director Hayao Miyazaki. The facial design is unmistakable, as well as the scene where Toothless sits down for the very first time, faceing Hiccup.

I find this omission a bit strange, since there is always acknowledgement, when and where Wikipedia discusses derivatives of works by another famous japanese movie director, Kurosawa Akira (e.g. Seven Samurai -> The Magnificient Seven). 91.82.38.240 (talk) 22:33, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

As that is not mentioned in the official art book, commentary, or in any interview by Chris Sanders, Dean, or Bonnie Arnold, it is likely not a sourced fact. If you can point to a source, it can be added, but according to the making of documentary, the sitting scene was done by one of the animators purely on inspiration. Chris Sanders saw it and okayed the animator break Toothless's model to make it happen, then had the rigging crew come in and redo the rig so he could sit. 24.4.4.8 (talk) 19:51, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Editing the Plot section

The Plot section was too long and was written as a narrative rather than a summary, so I rewrote it but it may need more editing. I saw the movie when it came out but I don't remember that much about it. I think someone who has seen it more recently should go over this section and edit as needed. Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors (talk) 02:31, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Editing the Plot section

The Plot section was too long and was written as a narrative rather than a summary, so I rewrote it but it may need more editing. I saw the movie when it came out but I don't remember that much about it. I think someone who has seen it more recently should go over this section and edit as needed. Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors (talk) 02:34, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

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Rollback of my plot summary edits

Hello to Frui1bat. You rolled back all of my careful edits wholesale, without taking the time to consider if any of them were in fact an improvement of the prose or content. That action tends to look like an "Ownership" issue. I suggest you reconsider. Invertzoo (talk) 13:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

(see also my talk page for another branch of this conversation) After reconsidering my revert, I took the time to merge in the parts I thought were improvements while making other edits to smooth out other parts of the plot at the same time. I hope that works as a compromise. --Fru1tbat (talk) 14:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to merge the parts you considered were improvements. The plot summary does read better now, and I think you understood what I was trying to do with at least some of my changes. Invertzoo (talk) 10:12, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

this is a very fun movie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.119.226 (talk) 18:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

False Oscar info

Somebody changed the movie’s status to say it won the Oscars for best animated feature and best original score. It didn’t. It lost both best animated film to Toy Story 3, and best original score to The Social Network. Unless this is an April fool’s joke, was there a revocation? If so, why is it not written as such? April 1, 2021 (15:55) (BlueBlurHog) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.67.148 (talk) 19:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. Someone made those edits yesterday, and nobody caught them, apparently. I've reverted the false information. Thanks! --Fru1tbat (talk) 20:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

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