Talk:Hope Tala

Proposed merge of Draft:Hope Tala into Hope Tala

Please compare and consolidate draft and article. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Most of what the draft seems to be already sourced by the main article and there should be no portions that are not consolidated already as I can see it right now. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:32, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rlink2 (talk) 00:12, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that British singer Hope Tala turned down an opportunity to pursue a master's degree at the University of Cambridge in favor of pursuing a career in music? Source: "Her dedication to music is irrefutable, and even more so as she reveals that she declined her Master's degree in English Literature offered by the University of Cambridge to pursue music" Kim, Soey (14 August 2019). "Hope Tala's Latest EP "Sensitive Soul" Will Banish Your Summer Blues Away". British Vogue. Condé Nast. Retrieved 26 February 2022.
  • ALT1: ... that British singer Hope Tala found out she was included on Barack Obama's favourite songs list through an Instagram comment whilst watching Strictly Come Dancing? Source: "I had absolutely no idea. I found out while watching the Strictly Come Dancing final with my mum because someone commented it on one of my Instagram posts. It was the best night of my life." Taylor, Sam (20 December 2021). "Hype List 2022: Hope Tala: "There has to be a bit of unexplainable magic"". Dork. Retrieved 26 February 2022.
  • Reviewed: Un été avec Homère
  • Comment: I love Tala's music, and I'm really glad I had the opportunity to work on this article. I wish nothing but the best for her moving forwards, and getting to learn about her more was an amazing opportunity. Thank you so much in advance to the reviewer!

Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Self-nominated at 22:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: for both hooks. feminist (talk) Слава Україні! 09:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Notability and excessive detail

I'm not convinced that Hope Tala is notable enough to have such a detailed article. She's not any songs in any notable charts. To be fair, one song with 2.3m views on YouTube and others with a few hundred thousand is quite good, but doesn't really tell us that much. I've also notice the small handful of internal Wikipedia links to Hope Tala which makes me wonder on notability. Her record company says she has tens of millions of streams on Spotify, but I don't know how to verify that. Also, almost all of the content has been created by one user. I'll add some templates. Seaweed (talk) 15:44, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

There is specific third party coverage of this artist by multiple notable outlets. That's the criteria for general notability, more than chart positions or number of internal wikilinks. SFB 21:29, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm still not sure. I know what you mean, but I think the issue in this case is that she's a music professional carrying out a trade. Her record company and management (along with herself) are securing interviews and promotional attention in various ways in order to make money from her music. Most of her third party coverage seems to be promotional. Anyway, maybe she'll become a success and my observation will be moot.Seaweed (talk) 20:22, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

What you are describing is the process of most music journalism to be honest. If we limited notability for coverage not related to promotion of a certain thing, we'd probably have very few musician biographies. SFB 18:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)