Talk:Hope Diamond

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Shhhnotsoloud in topic Merger Proposal

History discrepancy

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Editing the history of the 'owners and their fate' section I have found that there are a number of discrepancies between dates of the sources and cannot be sure which is correct, as such I have stopped editing at the beginning of 1900s allowing for those who have better information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanharmany (talkcontribs) 14:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Merger Proposal

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of the discussion was not merged. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:23, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I propose to merge Tavernier Blue into Hope Diamond. Both are articles about the same piece of jewelry, identified with different names at different points in time. The content in the Tavernier Blue article can easily be explained in the context of the Hope Diamond, and the Hope Diamond article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Tavernier Blue will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.237.104.102 (talkcontribs) 23 August 2021 (UTC)

  • No, I would be opposed: Despite the assertion above, these are not "the same piece of jewelry, identified with different names" at all. Whilst there is a well-marketed theory that the Hope Diamond was cut from the French Blue (which in turn was cut from the Tavernier Blue) there is no definite evidence of this; The French Blue disappeared in 1792 and the Hope Diamond has no provenance before 1830 (or possibly 1812) while the lead replica which the theory is based on only appeared in 2007. In any event they are different sizes, different cuts, and with different histories; even Francois Farge, the guy who put forward the theory, is clear they are "completely different stones" (otherwise France would have a claim for repatriation). It is also incorrect that "the Hope Diamond article is of a reasonable size that...merging...will not cause any problems"; this article is currently over 90 Kb, which is approaching the point where it almost certainly should be divided. So a better idea would be to split the information in the History section (from Geological beginnings to the end of Theft and disappearance) and move it to the Tavernier Blue page. Moonraker12 (talk) 00:07, 28 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Ultraviolet light

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The article mentions that the Hope Diamond glows under a black light. Suggest adding a picture showing that under uv it to be a very intense pure red. Colonial Computer 00:38, 20 September 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22yearswothanks (talkcontribs)