Talk:Honorific nicknames in popular music/Archive 8

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King of Pop

Justin Timberlake or Justin Bieber aren’t widely know as the King of Pop. There is just only one King of Pop. The sources used are asking the question, referring to them as the “New King of Pop”(not The reigning King of Pop), or simply are just poor sources. There’s been many people with existing sources where “King of Pop” is loosely thrown around(like it is in the case of the 2 Justins) from Usher, Chris Brown, and Sisqo, to most recently, Bruno Mars, Drake, and Beyoncé. Beyoncé! When is the last time you heard any award show, news program, search engine, or radio station introduce any of these artists as the King of Pop. When is the last time the name King of Pop redirected to any of these other artists here on Wikipedia? “King of Pop” should be removed from the 2 Justins, or start an AFD to correct the issue if there is going to be an edit war over it. TruthGuardians (talk) 04:30, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Bluesatellite Honorific nicknames should be something widely used and recognizable. Perhaps arguable. Otherwise, the list loses purpose and allows one or two sources to dictate an uncommon nickname for an artist that a publication only referred to as such just that one time. There’s a slippery slope here for fan/self-promotion.— TheWikiholic (talk) 05:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

MJ is definitely the most commonly associated with the King of Pop (you see it on the lead section), but historically the term King of Pop predated MJ's career.[1] This article isn't exclusive to artists with the most frequently associated nickname, there's no rule for this. You only care because it's related to your idol. The King of Rock and Roll, the Queen of Soul, and the Queen of Pop are also used multiple times in this page to various artists. Let's not be biased here. Bluesatellite (talk) 06:00, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

When did we start to use blogs as sources on Wikipedia?. Mike Scott is known to be quite anti-Jackson. The way I idolised MJ, and you idolised Madonna, serves no purpose here. I'm also not in favour of using King of rock and roll or queen of pop unless It's been widely and repeatedly used for the respective artists. The sources that have been used for the likes of Timberlake, Bieber, and George Michael never used that name again, on any other day, in any other month or year. It was a one-time occurrence soon to be forgotten like others in the past.— TheWikiholic (talk) 07:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, that's the real problem with the list. Everybody can get a spot when reliable sources mention the nickname. There has never been any strict rule. Carly Rae Jepsen is the Queen of Pop according to this page, then so what. We don't cherry-pick. If there's certain criteria, then it should be applied to all. Not to mention, this article has survived WP:AfD four times. Bluesatellite (talk) 07:40, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I agree it should be applied to all. Do we really consider Carly Rae Jepsen's Queen of Pop the same as Madonna's? Is this just a list of every occasion someone somewhere calls someone king of this queen of that or we actually want a list where such names are justified by consisent usage? castorbailey (talk) 08:17, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Then perhaps we should create some standards? Carly Rae Jepsen sitting in the same boat as a Madonna or perhaps a Janet just don’t sit right with me. I can agree that the same should apply to all either the way that it is now, or with newly created standards. I guess I was wanting this list to be more prestigious than it actually is now, and believe that standards could help that. Furthermore, I wouldn’t want to AFD the entire article, sorry for the confusion, just parts of it, but on second thought I would probably change my mind because I understand that this article has no standards. TruthGuardians (talk) 14:13, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

On topic/off topic comment: I found about 10 reliable sources that refers to Michael Jackson as the King of Pop, Rock, and Soul. Can we had that entire honorific name under Jackson? Here are 3 of those sources with one referring to him as the King of Pop, Rock, Soul, AND Hip Hop:

I think we should keep all those aliases, in that way we don't cherry-pick any nickname and that title isn't the "exception". For me, artists such as George Michael are properlly referenced and there are others that hasn't been added like Robbie Williams. The difference with Michael Jackson will be that is a nickname commonly associated with him and that fact has been added in the lead of this entry and with the redirection of "King of Pop" and "King of Pop (disambiguation)" as well in his main article. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 14:57, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I think the biggest difference with Michael Jackson is global cultural impact, record sales, popularity, and world records. One is not like the others, but the others are more like each other. I mean if we all agree to the argument of not cherry-picking, then we need to add a notice to the lead and a definition like This is a list of every occasion someone somewhere in the world has called someone an honorific nick name like "King of Rock/Pop" or "Queen of Pop/Rock"TruthGuardians (talk) 15:36, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria/Rules for the addition of honorific nicknames

We need to create strict rule(s) to lose the purpose of the list.

• 1) Honorific nicknames should be something widely and repeatedly used and recognizable.
• 2) The source(s) used for the respective Honorific nicknames should specifically say that, the artist is widely/often/commonly known/regarded/called as this nickname. Or something similar.

Any other suggestions?.— TheWikiholic (talk) 16:32, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

maybe also include some form of notable cultural impact or something in relation to sales requirement or something like that. Just throwing stuff out there at this point in time. TruthGuardians (talk) 20:02, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Bluesatellite, what say you? Are we going to implement some rules to avoid fancruft/puffery? Or are we going to keep the page the same and continue to allow anyone who has ever been called an honorific nickname at some point in their career by some random person who once wrote it in an article be added to this page?TruthGuardians (talk) 04:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

This article is going to be bigger and bigger in the future (right now it has nearly a thousand citations). People like Lil Nas X or Olivia Rodrigo is going to be the King and Queen very soon. I personally think we can go with the point (2), but we all need to commit together to apply this to all artists entirely. Let's see others' opinion Bluesatellite (talk) 04:12, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I've just created Talk:Honorific nicknames in popular music/revamp, if you guys are really serious about it. Bluesatellite (talk) 05:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I support current list above. I am serious and will support the addition of nicknames if one of the two criteria are met and so far they are in the revamped version.TruthGuardians (talk) 17:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2021

I really feel that for more reliability and satisfaction, official titles should be made discrete and compositely selected from other titles that might not be that protracted in mainstream audiences, i.e an artiste can be both Queen of pop, and 'Almighty Diva' But Madonna is already Queen of Pop, so if that said artiste is more known for being the Almighty Diva it should be catagorically set aside from other titles given or asserted to her. 41.190.12.47 (talk) 19:50, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:09, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2021

Nick cave & Leonard Cohen = Soldier of Love 2003:E9:6F06:50B7:A41A:6FAF:CAB6:2433 (talk) 19:14, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Additional Person for this Wiki information

Can I add Jolina Magdangal as the Original Philippine Multimedia Superstar? She should be there above everyone else better than Toni Gonzaga.

Thank you Rheyvalencia (talk) 15:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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Additional person for this list

I am unable to add him myself since my Wikipedia account hasn't been auto-confirmed yet, but could someone add Peter Green as "The Green God" to this list for me, please?

StarLordyLordyPiccaBenicoff (talk) 15:15, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2021

Julie Anne San Jose as Asia's Limitless Star 136.158.40.242 (talk) 00:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:47, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

BTS honorific correction

BTS were mentioned as "Princes of Pop" by TIMES not "princes of kpop". Can someone change it? It's written correctly on BTS official Wikipedia page but here it's wrong. Data For Life (talk) 18:16, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

BTS is the biggest band in the world right now and i saw it in many news i would like wikepedia to add those titles in BTS "Biggest Band In The World and Buggest Korean Act In The World" Agls 124 (talk) 08:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2021

Asha Bhosle - Queen of Indie pop Lata Mangeshkar - The Nightingale of Bollywood 2409:4066:182:63AF:403E:1F27:C423:2F97 (talk) 10:33, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:59, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2021

Move Jennie (South Korea)'s entry from under E to under J 173.2.94.36 (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 14:06, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 November 2021

please add howard stern's title as "King of All Media", thank you! 2600:8801:2380:4300:2C61:D4A8:D40D:1CA6 (talk) 09:42, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: He's not a musician in popular music. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:57, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2021

Insufficient evidence that Ariana Grande's nickname is Queen of Halloween from cited source. Requesting the removal of the nickname "Queen of Halloween".

47.144.12.33 (talk) 21:57, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:04, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

There's only one King of country music. Its not George Strait. It is and always has been. Roy Acuff. Fact check that.

George Strait is legendary and he deserves every praise. He sold a ton of records. Roy Acuff has the throne and always has and he is undisputed. 2600:1700:CD60:1450:216E:1ABE:5A98:EA43 (talk) 20:44, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2021

136.158.41.44 (talk) 03:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC) Julie Anne San Jose- Asia's Limitless Star

, , Vin97346 (talk) 00:33, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 16:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2022

Luther Vandross Danb51969 (talk) 20:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RudolfRed (talk) 01:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Janet Jackson's other honorific nicknames

Janet Jackson is also known as "Queen of R&B" and also "Queen of Pop":Considered by many fans and critics as the “Queen of R&B”...,The Velvet Rope: The Queen of R&B’s Magnum Opus,Janet at Glastonbury: Slick, energetic set from an R&B queen,Lizzo labels Janet Jackson the ‘Queen Of Pop’ to the anger of Madonna fans,Who's the ultimate Pop Queen: Janet Jackson or Madonna?,5 Reasons Janet Jackson Is Undoubtedly The ‘Queen Of Pop’--MJJ-777 (talk) 23:31, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2022

UK Channel 4 documentary "Queens of Rap" about rappers Cardi B and Megan thee Stallion [2] is referenced by media press [3][4] [5]

That nickname should be listed in "Group and collective titles" with both rappers. 132.184.130.23 (talk) 06:10, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Comment, not an answer – Plenty of women have Queen of Rap listed already. Is there really a need to put them as a group? Hey man im josh (talk) 16:02, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. The sources provided name the documentary only, not the artists. If you can find and list reliable sources that specifically name these and the many other artists as a Queen of Rap, I would be happy to add their names to the Group section. Feel free to reopen this request and ping me. Thanks, Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:28, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Correction & change on the artist & title - Princes of K-pop

• What I think should be changed: "SHINee" should be listed under "Group and collective titles" as the Princes of K-pop.
• Why it should be changed: The title, Princes of K-pop, is officially cited for SHINee but it shows the title next to BTS, which is incorrect. Due to the impact, contributions, and years in the South Korean music industry, SHINee has gained that title since as early as 2015 from critics, and other artists in the industry. They are also cited as such when you search "Princes of K-pop".
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): , ,

Vin97346 (talk) 00:28, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

 Already done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 15:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

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Michael Jackson other honorific nicknames

Last time I got no reply, so I'll try again (with more sources): Michael Jackson was also known as "The King Of Pop, Rock and Soul", The King of Pop and Soul", "The Greatest Entertainer That Ever Lived" and in the 80' also as "The Gloved One". Here are some sources (mosly prestigious like Forbes, Reuters, The Guardian, CNN etc.): , , , , , , , , , , , , . And last an interesting article about all the issues above: . --MJJ-777 (talk) 13:21, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

After another 5 months is there someone who wants at least to reply? MJJ-777 (talk) 01:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2022

La Lupe The Queen of Latin Soul needs to be added. Other nicknames include La Reina and La Gran Tirana see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Lupe 72.50.4.156 (talk) 19:27, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done for "Queen of Latin Soul". Please provide reliable sources for the others. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 04:25, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2022

Okay so i want will like if you would add the singer ofra haza who got the nickname madonna of the east She born in israel and she was really famous, she is my favorite singer!

Thanks 2A02:6680:1108:257:BC2E:9831:9155:357F (talk) 06:29, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2022

Kris Aquino title : Queen of All Media country:Philippines 112.200.14.198 (talk) 16:23, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:28, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Misspelling (17 September 2022)

The band Anthrax is currently mispelled in the article as "Anthraz"; I cannot edit due to semi-protected status. See "Big Four of Thrash Metal" under Group and collective titles 72.196.156.152 (talk) 22:10, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

A limit of nicknames for an artist

Do we should limited the nicknames attributed to an artist? I saw many of them with up to 10 nicknames, and poorly sourced. This is more persistent with pop divas. Myself, I can add another nicknames to many of them, and providing 3 or more references in that addition, but seems kind of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 03:30, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Apoxyomenus: Personally I think 3 or 4 should be the limit. Anything beyond that in my opinion goes into WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:FANCRUFT territory. There's enough fancruft in this article already. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:19, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Edit request

Can someone please fix my edit under "P", "Katy Perry" ? I added a nickname that Vogue and Rolling Stone have used for her but something on the formatting screwed up. Not used to tables, sorry PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 04:26, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

An omission...

Morning... You seem to have missed out... DJ Dave Clarke 'The Baron of Techno'... Named by British DJ John Pee!... 2A00:23C5:101B:3D01:AC23:AD94:9AD9:D98B (talk) 04:13, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

racist and biased garbage page

To say that calling someone an honoriffic title like king of pop is "in spite of" the US's republican constitution and ideology, and that calling elvis the king of rock n roll was to take something that belonged to black people, is an incredibly racist and ridiculously clueless and STUPID thing to say.

Literally NO ONE thinks calling elvis the king of rock n roll means he has authority over that genre or the people who pioneered it, or that he has any greater merit OTHER than being the most popular of that genre at the time. I can't even believe the things I'm reading; it's so incredibly opposite the actual reality of the situation that I'm dumbfounded anyone thinks this way.

It really goes to show what kind of damage looking at things through a racialized RACIST lense does to people; viewing even the simplest things like "king of {genre}" as racist colonialization of music genres when it's literally nothing of the sort and only denotes popularity and nothing more.

This page needs a full overhaul, and the racialised garbage that literally not a single person believes needs to be removed. What I want you to do is go outside, walk down the street, and ask people for their opinions on the terms "king of {genre}" and what they think it means. Not a single person will tell you it means they have authority over the genre and power to decide over others within that genre, especially along racial lines.

Yea, elvis totally was called king of rock n roll as a way for old whitey to take over rock n roll, and NOT because he was the most popular rock n roll artist in the world at the time. Pure stupidity. 2603:7080:CC43:9100:D9A4:FC33:B862:2038 (talk) 22:18, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Blabbering about racism and bias yet calling others "old whiteys". Reflect on yourself and then come back to contribute to wikipedia. Dionysos1993 (talk) 19:49, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Eric Clapton Is God

This seems to be a clear omission when there is a fully referenced page covering the topic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapton_is_God

Also: Clapton's nickname of "Slowhand" came from Giorgio Gomelsky, a pun on the slow handclapping that ensued when Clapton stopped playing while he replaced a string. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton#The_Yardbirds_and_the_Bluesbreakers 81.98.128.195 (talk) 23:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Bruno Mars is an another prince of Pop in the United States

I have prove that Bruno Mars is the "Prince of Pop" and how he deserves the nickname. Links: https://web.archive.org/web/20161119012258/http://www.bet.com/music/2016/11/18/bruno-mars-24k-magic-interview.html

https://www.thetoptens.com/music/honorific-nicknames-popular-music/

https://thegrio.com/2021/08/30/lizzo-sparks-backlash-justin-bieber/

Jojomg17 Jojomg17 (talk) 00:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2023

Nicki Minaj is still the reigning Queen of Hip-Hop: https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/nicki-minaj-greatest-pop-stars-2022-1235185100/ "The presence of women in hip-hop has surged over the last decade, but Nicki Minaj never lost her ‘Queen of Rap’ title." Plus she's the only mainstream female rapper who still claims it as other sources have since her arising Wriststillrocky (talk) 02:45, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Article already lists this "Queen of Hip-Hop" as one of her nicknames. What changes are you requesting? Cannolis (talk) 06:54, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

D'Angelo and Maxwell are both Kings of Neo-Soul

D'Angelo and Maxwell are both Kings of Neo-Soul in United States

D'Angelo sources: https://beat.com.au/the-history-of-neo-soul-told-through-eight-iconic-artists/
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-king-of-neo-soul-dangelo-is-up-to-something-yaz.5029061/

Maxwell sources :https://www.vibe.com/gallery/maxwell-neo-souls-awaited-king/

https://www.thetoptens.com/music/honorific-nicknames-popular-music/

Jojomg17 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jojomg17 (talk • contribs) 12:16, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Brian McKnight is the king of love songs aka ballads

Brian McKnight is the king of love songs aka ballads and I have sources to prove it. Sources: https://www.theday.com/music/20220722/brian-mcknight-king-of-love-songs-is-now-truly-in-love/ https://www.ajc.com/life/radiotvtalk-blog/interview-brian-mcknight-king-of-love-songs-is-now-truly-in-love/GS5QKMWEZNFVZEAPJRISUVFRR4/ Jojomg17 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jojomg17 (talk • contribs) 12:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Jojomg17 Jojomg17 (talk) 12:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

John Farnham - 'The Voice'

I'm surprised that John Farnham - universally considered one if the greatest singers of all time - isn't on this list, especially given he is better known by his nickname 'The Voice'. Please add him to the list. 49.195.13.145 (talk) 02:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Overboard as usual

For example, Carly Rae Jepsen has had two Top Ten singles in Canada, one in the US, and 1-2 in a handful of other countries. Is it really necessary to include "honorifics" that have been bestowed by someone if their validity is not even dubious at best, but simply not valid? Why not have a chart with categories and the artists that have actually worked consistently their entire careers to earn them, AND THEN an "also" chart? Otherwise the usefulness of this article is nil. 135.134.38.70 (talk) 23:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2023

Katy Perry - Female Michael Jackson Kartikay Singh wants a good life (talk) 18:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 03:11, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Raphael Saadiq is the King of Neo Soul in United States

Link to prove that he is king of Neo Soul music: https://www.vh1.com/news/363lnl/essential-neo-soul-artists#:~:text=If%20Badu%20is%20the%20Queen,Following%20his%20days%20with%20Tony! Jojomg17 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jojomg17 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorting

In the groups section, it seems to be randomly organized. How do I sort the entries? Alphabetically? AugustusAudax (talk) 01:22, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

The Beatles

Just out of curiosity, is there any specific reason The Beatles are not listed? They have famously been dubbed "The Kings of Rock", "The Fab Four", "The Boys from Liverpool" and other nicknames on TV, radio, newspapers, magazines etc. I've done a quick search on the archived talk pages and found nothing about their absence here, which is weird, considering their importante to music and culture. Clausgroi (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Bach “The Father of modern piano music”?

I think the names must be mixed up, piano wasn’t even around in the times of the great JSB 73.19.114.210 (talk) 16:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Mr. Las Vegas - Wayne Newton

The list shows “Mr. Thanksgiving,” “Mr. Bongo,” “Mr. Country Music,” “Mr. Showmanship,” and many similar. There’s also two separate “Queen of Las Vegas.” Wayne Newton has long been known as “Mr. Las Vegas,” as mentioned in his personal article. He should be on this list. 172.59.76.110 (talk) 13:48, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 Sept 2021

Ray Charles was, and always will be, The Genius. Last I checked, this nickname is in the very first paragraph of his main article. I don’t have an account so I can’t edit, but I can’t think of any reason not to include this so hopefully someone could please add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:803:8000:2fd0:bdf1:2ba3:5acd:2845 (talk) 13:39, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Jason Derulo is the pop prince and new king of pop

Jason Derulo's honorific nicknames: pop prince- https://www.radiotimes.com/programme/b-jkqx86/prince-of-pop-jason-derulo/ https://www.flavourmag.co.uk/jason-derulo-the-pop-prince-on-his-rise-to-fame/ New king of pop- https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/is-jason-derulo-the-new-king-of-pop-music.4182443/ Jojomg17 (talk) 01:52, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2023

Jason Derulo is the pop prince and new king of pop Jason Derulo's honorific nicknames: pop prince- https://www.radiotimes.com/programme/b-jkqx86/prince-of-pop-jason-derulo/ https://www.flavourmag.co.uk/jason-derulo-the-pop-prince-on-his-rise-to-fame/ New king of pop- https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/is-jason-derulo-the-new-king-of-pop-music.4182443/ Jojomg17 Jojomg17 (talk) 23:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:04, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

real sources- "https://www.flavourmag.co.uk/jason-derulo-the-pop-prince-on-his-rise-to-fame/"

"https://neuland-concerts.com/en/artists/jason-derulo" Jojomg17 (talk) 14:02, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Brian McKnight is the king of love songs

Sources-"Brian McKnight, king of love songs, is now truly in love - NewsBreak https://www.newsbreak.com/atlanta-ga/2664310393223-brian-mcknight-king-of-love-songs-is-now-truly-in-love"

"INTERVIEW: Brian McKnight, king of love songs, is now truly in love https://www.ajc.com/life/radiotvtalk-blog/interview-brian-mcknight-king-of-love-songs-is-now-truly-in-love/GS5QKMWEZNFVZEAPJRISUVFRR4/" Jojomg17 (talk) 03:35, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Draft-ify and improve?

Per the deletion discussion, is there consensus for moving this article to draft space until its inclusion criteria can be worked out? -- Mikeblas (talk) 12:44, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

The only possible inclusion criterion I can think of is that to qualify for this list a nickname must meet the following three points:

1) Is actually an honorific.

2) Has been referred to as a widely used nickname by multiple reliable sources -- that is, the nickname itself is discussed as a nickname, not random words used in a headline to fill it out. Example: Rolling Stone calling "The Fab Four" an "indelible" nickname here.

3) The nickname is used significantly by people outside the artist's fan base -- that is, not words used in a headline solely to pander to stans fans.

My instinct is that this will narrow down the list so much that it's not worth keeping, but I also can't think of any other set of criteria that would produce something meaningful. Gnomingstuff (talk) 13:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

How would you define honorific title? As strictly as the Wikipedia article does? Then even "The Fab Four" don't make it. I completely agree about 2) and 3), though: there needs to be a long-standing pattern of wide-spread usage, and not just one off excited journalists pumping excitement. Even if we changed this scope to "music nicknames", I think your 2) and 3) would still need to apply. -- Mikeblas (talk) 20:34, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

A very good question, and part of why I AfDed it in the first place. I'm honestly not sure. Gnomingstuff (talk) 02:14, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

I think it would be better to transform this List article into Paragraph article detailing and focusing the "history" of nicknames in popular music. For example, readers need to know where The King of Pop" title originally came from. Was Michael Jackson really the first person to be called so, and since when it's become synonymous with him? I found that Australian pop music awards had already "King of Pop" awards since the 1960s, long before Michael Jackson starting his career. We can also discuss controversy or dispute of the titles, etc etc. For example, Rolling Stone received online backlash for dubbing Harry Styles the King of Pop.[6], or Lady Gaga as the Queen of Pop.[7] Leaving this article in List form would be endless. There would be dozens of future top artists to be called "Kings" and "Queens" by media. Bluesatellite (talk) 03:48, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

I've in my watchlist this page, and I was always wonder how the page could be improved. In the recent AfD, there were many saying keep & rework, although with little examples how to reach that goal. By the moment, I maintain the POV to limit the nicknames for individuals: see pop divas such as Shakira, all mainstream women in popular music receive a lot of nicknames nowadays and many here have dubious "honorific nicknames". Another consideration could be the inclusion only if a mainstream media outlet/newspaper of records explicitly says "widely", "known", "dubbed" the "Queen/King of" along with 3 other sources. Maybe the tables could be sorted with the nicknames and then all prominent individuals receiving that nickname (King of Pop, Queen of Soul, Queen of Pop and more). For the record, in print sources, as far I remember, Elvis Presley or Bing Crosby were among the firsts to be called Kings of Pop. This is a strong example how others have received a particular nickname, although MJ has been the most associated individual with it. Even before music artists, there was Andy Warhol, aka King of Pop (short of pop art). There are many ways to re-build the page. Perhaps a survey could help. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 04:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Maxwell (singer) is the king of Neo-Soul

sources- "Maxwell: Neo-Soul's Awaited King - VIBE.com https://www.vibe.com/gallery/maxwell-neo-souls-awaited-king/" "https://www.dayton.com/entertainment/neo-soul-king-bring-concert-town/3XvH3fqtXQ5Fk9AhD7h15I/" Jojomg17 (talk) 03:14, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

i meant to say that Maxwell and D'Angelo are the only two Neo Soul kings, because they have master the genre very well like Erykah Badu. Jojomg17 (talk) 01:46, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 31 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus exists against the reformat of the article to a list at this time, with consensus having already been established that the subject itself is notable, though not necessarily the list form. (closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ^(talk) 15:49, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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Honorific nicknames in popular music → List of honorific nicknames in popular music – Per this AfD discussion which eventually resulted in a consensus to keep and rework, this or "List of honorific titles in popular music" can be a more appropriate title for this page. RMXY (talk) 13:12, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose as a delete-voter in the AFD, I found the arguments that the concept was notable to be more persuasive than the arguments that the lists themselves are useful. Walt Yoder (talk) 23:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Add Seiko Matsuda

Seiko Matsuda must be added to the list since she is referred to as The Eternal Idol and is an icon in Japanese music in general.

Source-"59-year-old 'eternal idol' Seiko Matsuda amazes fans with hasn’t-aged-a-day self-cover - https://japantoday.com/category/entertainment/59-year-old-'eternal-idol'-seiko-matsuda-amazes-fans-with-hasn%E2%80%99t-aged-a-day-self-cover" 10:24, 13 June 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.178.225.155 (talk)

D'Angelo (singer) is the king of Neo-Soul

Sources- "The King of Neo Soul D'Angelo is up to something. YAZ!! | Lipstick Alley https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-king-of-neo-soul-dangelo-is-up-to-something-yaz.5029061/"

"Artists in Focus | D'Angelo | RSL Awards Ltd | Rockschool Bass https://www.rslawards.com/artists-focus-dangelo/" Jojomg17 (talk) 03:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

• This basically contradicts the previous item. If Maxwell were commonly considered the King of Neo-Soul, then D'Angelo wouldn't be, and if D'Angelo were commonly considered the King of Neo-Soul, then Maxwell wouldn't be. From this I conclude that neither of them should be recognized in this article as the King of Neo-Soul. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:39, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

  I can state that it's not true because they both are the top prominent figures to start the Neo-Soul genre movement. Jojomg17 (talk) 00:27, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

  To explain my perspective here, I was one of the people who recommended deletion of this page in the recent discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Honorific nicknames in popular music, because I thought that a lot of the honorific nicknames being listed were questionable. Since the majority recommended keeping the page, I'm not going to try to delete existing nicknames but I am going to discourage the inclusion of additional dubious nicknames. And I can find more sources that indicate that neither D'Angelo nor Maxwell is the King of Neo-Soul. This article from VH1 says, "Raphael Saadiq ... If Badu is the Queen, then Saadiq is the 'King of Neo Soul.'" According to this article, Erykah Badu called Roy Ayers the "king of neo-soul". And this article from The Journal of Pan African Studies says, "As for the 'Queen of Neo-Soul,' Badu confronts a particular set of problems the more and more erotic her artistic performance gets. There is no 'King of Neo-Soul,' revealingly. He isn’t dead. 'He' simply never was. There is no such conception." So there are at least two other potential "kings of neo-soul" as well as an explicit claim that "there is no 'King of Neo-Soul'". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:21, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

  If you use the a.i website such as chatgpt, it will tell you that those nicknames are true and you can ask it how do you find them on internet. Jojomg17 (talk) 02:35, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

  Hey I just want to know,when all the honorific nicknames from talk page will be added to the list of honorific nicknames of music?. I feel like all of them should be on there. Jojomg17 (talk) 03:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Joe Walsh is the “Clown Prince of Rock and Roll”

The source can be found in the first citation of Joe’s wiki page Joe Walsh Baseball inferno (talk) 06:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Selena is the Queen of Cumbia

Selena is also called "Queen Of Cumbia" and has been called that by her fans and estate and has official merch that says it Ana Palato (talk) 15:14, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

She is not, although her music has cumbia influences, her genre is TexMex and nothing else, cumbia was not her main genre. Bogartlipa1989 (talk) 06:13, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Recent changes

The AfD from May produced a clear consensus that a major rework was needed for this article, however no changes were actually made since then. Therefore, I decided to give it a go and tried to rework the list by deleting entries that were not supported by well-established sources, pure WP:FANCRUFT, nicknames that are not actually honorific, not even mentioned in their respective article, or produces rather insignificant results after searching the artist and their "nickname" on Google. I also tried to limit nicknames for each artist to 1 or 2 based on the one that is most associated with the artist, as many had several nicknames that are somewhat associated with them but are not as recognizable. If there are entries that any feel were wrongly deleted and well justified, please feel free to discuss. Thanks! ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 01:41, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@Nkon21: Thanks for trimming it. I think your reasoning is spot on. I would also suggest only including entries with at least 3 reliable sources. I haven't had time to properly go through the updated article yet but just on a quick glance there are still a lot of entries with just a single/not very well known source (mostly in spanish or about latin artists). Also I feel like we have way too many pictures.. maybe sticking to one per table should be enough. - Ïvana (talk) 02:16, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I also agree that there are too many pictures. I would support a requirement that any new entries require at least 3 sources from well-regarded publications (ex. Rolling Stone, Billboard, GWR, and the likes) to be included, not just any random publication that slaps some nickname in front of an artist's name solely to satisfy their fandoms. As for the entries of the Latin artists you were mentioning, please go ahead and remove those who you think are not-as-notable. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 02:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Taylor Swift

@TheWikiholic: Hi. Please raise your concern here instead of edit-warring. Swift has gone by multiple titles throughout her career, as the sources in the old version of the article (before the overhaul) proved. But according to the recent editorial consensus, this article is supposed to include only one title per artist. And as such, all the titles except "The Music Industry" were removed. Your attempt to selectively remove not only the title but Swift—arguably the most notable musician of the 21st century according to critics—entirely from the article is questionable and borderline biased. ℛonherry☘ 13:49, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@Ronherry: Isn't "America's sweetheart" more widely known? I'm not a TS fan but I've heard that title more than the music industry one. - Ïvana (talk) 14:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't know if it's more known, but she has many titles, all supported by reliable sources. My point is, at least one of them (I don't care if it's "The Music Industry" or "America's Sweetheart") should be included in the table. I oppose completely removing Swift from the article. I support inclusion of any one of her titles, preferably "The Music Industry" or "America's Sweetheart". ℛonherry☘ 14:30, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

As I said here before on the talk page, Honorific nicknames should be something widely used and recognizable. Perhaps arguable. Otherwise, the list loses purpose and allows one or two sources to dictate an uncommon nickname for an artist that a publication only referred to as such just that one time. There’s a slippery slope here for fan/self-promotion. The source(s) used for the respective Honorific nicknames should specifically say that, the artist is widely/often/commonly known/regarded/called as this nickname. Or something similar. TheWikiholic (talk) 04:29, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Same here, when it comes to Swift's nicknames I've hear more "America's Sweetheart" rather than The Music Industry outside her fandom and one land (USA). Beyond that mainly some American newspapers have referred the original citation by Bloomberg's article and later a (self) promotional tactic, there is not an accompanied key word such as "widely", "often cited" and a similar attribution specifically said by a third-party media outlet. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 06:19, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Beyoncé is the First Lady Of Music

Please add the title "First Lady Of Music" to Beyoncé’s honorific titles. Name given by Veteran record executive Clive Davis during a pre-Grammy event.

Source : http://www.essence.com/celebrity/clive-davis-beyonce-first-lady-music/

https://thatgrapejuice.net/2018/01/clive-davis-beyonce-first-lady-music/ Ldr199822 (talk) 22:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Please show evidence that this nickname is widely used, not with just one person or publication using the nickname a single time. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:43, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:35, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Don Omar is also called the King of Reggaeton

Hello, greetings to all. Puerto Rican singer Don Omar is also known as the King of Reggaeton and indeed quite a lot. As a Latin artist, I will provide sources in both English and Spanish:

In English:

• [8]
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• [11]

• [12]

• [13]

• [14]

• [15]

• [16]

• [17]

• [18]

• [19]

• [20]

• [21]

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• [25]

In Spanish (Rey del Reggaeton/Reguetón):

• [26]
• [27]
• [28]
• [29]
• [30]
• [31]
• [32]
• [33]
• [34]
• [35]

Sendtel + (talk) 13:57, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok, the highest quality sources here seem to be Billboard, Chicago Tribune and Miami Herald. To me, it seems like he has in fact been called this nickname widely. Pinging another editor as she probably has better knowledge of Latin music than I do — @Ïvana: do you agree Omar should be included? ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 21:46, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

@Nkon21: Don Omar is already included in the article though? He was there even before the massive cleanup we've been doing the past month. So I'm not sure what this request is about. But for what is worth I can confirm that he is known as el rey del reguetón in the Spanish-speaking sphere. - Ïvana (talk) 22:46, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't even notice that he was already included, thanks for pointing that out. The Chicago Tribune and Miami Herald sources can be added to the entry. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 23:05, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello both, thank you for responding. In response to Ïvana, the request in question arises since Nkon21 mentioned that there was no evidence of such nickname to the singer Don Omar. However, the real reason for this suggestion lies in keeping the two "Kings of Reggaeton" together, since they share the same title and nationality. I also suggest replacing the image in the article by which the two singers appear together, mentioning what they both are known as. In this way:

Puerto Rican singers Don Omar (left) and Daddy Yankee (right), each known as the "King of Reggaeton".

Artist	Title	Country	Source
Daddy Yankee	King of Reggaeton	Puerto Rico	Refs. DY
Don Omar			Refs. DO

Sendtel + (talk) 00:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Emo Trinity

Some one should add the Emo-Trinity Consisting of Fall Out Boy Panic! At The Disco and My Chemical Romance Itisi5 (talk) 03:40, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

@Itisi5: could you please provide sources please? alt-rock lead sites or major industry publications would be preferred. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 03:54, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

https://newnoisemagazine.com/anniversary-my-chemical-romances-debut-record-turns-18/https://sites.psu.edu/poppunkdefensesquad/2016/09/16/the-holy-trinity/https://bhspowwownews.bufsd.org/2985/arts-entertainment/the-holy-emo-trinity/ Itisi5 (talk) 17:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

The first source makes no mention of Fall Out Boy and Panic at the Disco while the last two sources are just student websites, which are not acceptable sources. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 21:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

I'll put the burden of proof on you, then. Itisi5 (talk) 23:04, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

https://www.altpress.com/mcr-fob-patd-lyrics-emo-trinity/ Itisi5 (talk) 23:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

"Who over the years have formed an emo trinity of sorts" does not show proof that the nickname has substantial recognition. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 00:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

@Nkon21 Okay. I'll put the burden of proof on you, then. Find me something that claims that they aren't. Although there could be a new page with only "fan names". itisi5 Itisi5 (talk) 01:04, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Nonsense—you are the one requesting for a nickname to be added to the page, but you have not been able to provide any sources that support that the nickname has substantial recognition. The WP:BURDEN is on you to provide adequate citations for content you want to include. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 01:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

@Nkon21 Create a new artile or subsection with Fan names then???? Itisi5 (talk) 01:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

thats a question Itisi5 (talk) 01:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Tiesto The Godfather Of EDM

Add Tiesto As the Godfather of EDM https://medium.com/@stere263/tiesto-the-godfather-of-edm-short-interview-ad0abea5a72b#:~:text=Ti%C3%ABsto%20is%20a%20Dutch%20DJ,of%20EDM%E2%80%9D%20by%20many%20sources. Itisi5 (talk) 16:06, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Titles

Brotha Lynch Hung aka Kevin Mann is The Godfather of Horrorcore rap 2601:1C0:CE00:55F0:4D69:13C4:A278:4754 (talk) 19:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

This is the 23rd full-length album from Detroit emcee/producer & Reel Life Productions founder Esham. Widely acknowledged as the godfather of horrorcore alongside his former Natas cohorts Mastamind & the late TNT, his run from 1989-2005 (particularly the albums KKKill the Fetus, Closed Casket & Doubelievengod?) or we also have eminem and many others Itisi5 (talk) 13:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Enhypen and Seventeen's Dino's titles as "Future of K-pop"

Enhypen has been called the "future of k-pop" by the MAMA Award show and fans, and have certainly earned the name. If not the future of k-pop, they are also known as "the ground-breakers/powerhouses of k-pop" Source:[36]. Although Dino's title is was presented to him by by fans, he is widely referred to as the "future of k-pop" because of his amazing and well-rounded skills. 175.36.166.185 (talk) 11:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

WP:FANCRUFT. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 19:46, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Cardi B should be removed as the Queen of Hip-Hop

None of the sources support the notion that Cardi B has been deemed the 'Queen of Hip Hop'--not by the industry, the general public, nor by her peers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:406:4C02:1DA0:44C:FE64:3ADA:43EC (talk) 21:42, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

THAT'S TRUEEE LittleMonsterrrrrrr (talk) 13:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

You missing Taylor Swift

Taylor Swift "the music industry". Rebeca Venabente (talk) 04:12, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

She's known as "the Music Industry" by her annoying fans LittleMonsterrrrrrr (talk) 13:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Ice Spice

"Princess Diana" and "The People's Princess" feel like they might fit in this article. Even if they started as jokes, they have come to be used commonly. Alternatively, "Rap's New Princess" has also been used in a number of articles about her, for example Princess Diana (song) and Ice Spice.

Sources: [37]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/arts/music/ice-spice-like.html [38]https://www.billboard.com/music/features/ice-spice-munch-rapper-princess-diana-billboard-cover-story-interview-1235325827/ Elij472 (talk) 01:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Where I'm from (South Africa lol), she is known as "The Princess Of Rap", and they haven't added her to the list, which is a shame. LittleMonsterrrrrrr (talk) 14:00, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Khomi Hirose is considered the "Winter Queen" in Japan

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2023/02/11/kiji/20230211s00041000515000c.html?amp=1 https://www.asahi.com/and/article/20221209/423377303/2/ https://post.tv-asahi.co.jp/post-124090/amp/ 67.83.188.13 (talk) 05:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Queen of Rap

Nicki minaj is the queen of rap stop that bs who calls lil kim the queen of rap ? 105.163.0.131 (talk) 13:00, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Maxwell is the Marvin Gaye of the 90s/prince of neo-soul

https://web.archive.org/web/20121025072114/http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-742919.html Jojomg17 (talk) 02:20, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

D'angelo is the King of Neo Soul

The King of Neo Soul D'Angelo is up to something. YAZ!! | Lipstick Alley https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-king-of-neo-soul-dangelo-is-up-to-something-yaz.5029061/ Jojomg17 (talk) 02:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Janelle monae the new princess of funk

https://museumofuncutfunk.com/2010/12/15/the-new-princess-of-funk/ Jojomg17 (talk) 02:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Jason Derulo is the prince of sampling/prince of pop

All Hail Jason Derulo - The Crown Prince of Sampling - Warner Music Australia https://warnermusic.com.au/news/all-hail-jason-derulo-the-crown-prince-of-sampling Jason Derülo: The Pop Prince On His Rise To Fame - FLAVOURMAG https://www.flavourmag.co.uk/jason-derulo-the-pop-prince-on-his-rise-to-fame/amp/ Jojomg17 (talk) 02:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Brian McKnight is the king of love songs

https://www.ajc.com/life/radiotvtalk-blog/interview-brian-mcknight-king-of-love-songs-is-now-truly-in-love/GS5QKMWEZNFVZEAPJRISUVFRR4/ https://dailyegyptian.com/46562/archives/cd-review-brian-mcknight-self-titled-polygram-records-reviewers-choice/ https://www.newsbreak.com/atlanta-ga/2664310393223-brian-mcknight-king-of-love-songs-is-now-truly-in-love Jojomg17 (talk) 02:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Adele should be added

She's been honored with numerous different titles such as "The Queen of Piano Ballads" etc. BootInBoots (talk) 21:13, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2024

I would like to add the nickname of "Rap God" for Eminem as it's quite possibly the most important one CowabungaBoy (talk) 20:01, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Liu1126 (talk) 18:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2024

Main Pop Girlies

Beyoncé Rihanna Lady Gaga Katy Perry Nicki Minaj 5.102.93.65 (talk) 21:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 21:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

GFRIEND

gfriend should be the Queen of synchronization 128.197.29.224 (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)