Talk:Homer House

Latest comment: 2 months ago by GRuban in topic Hook fact

Hook fact

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GRuban, is the hook true? "The 1853 Homer House, an Italianate mansion that dominates a hill just above Belmont town center" suggests it is important in its own right. Also the hook fact needs to be included in the article, but I can't see it there. TSventon (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

The overwhelming majority of sources in the article say so.
I guess to someone the house could be important in its own right, because they had their first kiss there, or they fell off the roof and broke their leg there, or even because it's an Italianate 1853 "mansion" (it's got 15 rooms, so it's not a shack, but neither is it Buckingham Palace). However, to the overwhelming majority of sources in the article, the clearly most important fact about Homer House is that Winslow Homer drew there, even though he didn't actually live there. You can see that in the source I'm using in the DYK - the title is "Winslow Homer's Early Days", even though it's about the house itself. Here is another, explicitly saying the significance of the house is Winslow Homer: https://www.wickedlocal.com/story/country-gazette/2018/09/27/mission-to-protect-preserve-belmont/64641687007/: " Some may notice a sign hanging in front of it that says, “Belmont Woman’s Club,” but still have no idea what the significance of the building is. American Artist Winslow Homer was the nephew of William Flagg Homer, who built the house at 661 Pleasant St. in Belmont in 1853 as a summer residence. Winslow spent many of his summers at his uncle’s house and much of his work depicts scenes of Belmont people and places, including his uncle’s home". Here is another https://www.wickedlocal.com/story/belmont-citizen-herald/2013/05/20/summer-is-coming-belmont/37868934007/ "Summer" is Coming! Belmont site associated with Winslow Homer opens for tours and “Croquet Summer” exhibit beginning May 25 (wickedlocal.com) --GRuban (talk) 15:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
If it really bothers you we can do "...that Winslow Homer never lived in Homer House", and leave out the "made it historic" part. You agree that the article does say he lived elsewhere? The reason I'm reluctant to shorten it that much is that lots of people (Homer, Homer Simpson, ...) never lived in Homer House, and I want to point out that unlike those Homers, Winslow Homer is, in fact, strongly connected to it. Do you insist? --GRuban (talk) 15:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
GRuban, I am still not totally convinced by the hook, but I wasn't intending to do a full review or tell you to do anything. Did you see the "This Old House" episode on YouTube? I think that could be the source for an alternative hook
...that the cupola of Homer House (pictured) is part of a 19th-century cooling system?
Source: https://eu.wickedlocal.com/story/belmont-citizen-herald/2015/10/01/this-old-house-renovates/33376213007/ "Richard Trethewey gets a tour of the home’s original plumbing and cupola-- which acted as the cooling system of the 1853 mansion" TSventon (talk) 00:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also, I have found an article on Jstor, which calls Homer House "a landmark of both art and architectural history", which I think is a good description. TSventon (talk) 14:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
GRuban, there is another question om the nomination page. TSventon (talk) 18:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Thank you --GRuban (talk) 16:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply