Talk:History of the Royal Australian Navy

Latest comment: 7 months ago by 2001:16A4:20F:C0C2:6320:2EA9:7178:6FD6 in topic GA Reassessment
Former good articleHistory of the Royal Australian Navy was one of the History good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 27, 2006WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
September 7, 2006Good article nomineeListed
September 16, 2006WikiProject A-class reviewNot approved
November 12, 2009Good article reassessmentKept
August 21, 2023Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

Which is the notable Garden Island edit

Something that stands out in the article is that HMAS Kuttabul is referred to as Garden Island in the press where as Stirling is referred to as Stirling. That by associating Garden Island only with Stirling could lead to confussion when using this as a reference. Gnangarra 11:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

oops, good point, ill change that. Hossen27 11:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

GA edit

Congratulations on the good work. You're not far from an FA. Durova 20:08, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

  • Thanks Nick but you deserve more than a little credit. You started the article and have contributed alot to it, now onto FA. Hossen27 08:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

WWI - first shots edit

There's a plaque at the enterance to port phillip bay, victoria that claims the RAN fired the first shots of WWI on a German merchant vessel attempting to leave the bay just after the declaration of WAR. The plaque is near queenscliffe? also a number of other memorials there to the navy as well. Gnangarra 10:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yeah I forgot about that incident it would be worth a mention in the article, its a pretty big claim it would need to be referenced. Unfortunatly like you Gnangarra im in WA thats a little far to go to get a pic. Hossen27 10:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Found an Age article on it [2]. Hossen27 10:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
If you're looking for a photo, the Australian War Memorial's online database has several good-quality photoes of this battery in WW1. --Nick Dowling 11:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Pacific Patrol Boat Program edit

I think that the Pacific Patrol Boat Program is being covered in too much detail. The RAN didn't crew or operate any of these ships, and this was a defence co-operation and diplomatic program rather than something which forms part of the RAN's history. I think that the RAN's role in the program should be the subject of a single paragraph, at most. --Nick Dowling 07:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Your probably right Nick, but into what section to stick it, a single para is usually too short for a separate heading. Hossen27 10:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
I'd suggest that it go in the Two Ocean Navy Policy section. The current material on the Pacific Patrol boat program would, of course, be a great addition to that article. --Nick Dowling 10:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

The opening sentence edit

"The History of the Royal Australian Navy can be traced back to 1788 and the colonisation of Australia by the British."

But the Royal Australian Navy was only formed out of the Commonwealth Naval Force in 1901. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.238.234 (talk) 10:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Boxer Rebellion edit

No mention at all of the Australian Naval China Contingent to the Boxer Uprising

http://www.awm.gov.au/atwar/boxer.asp

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-conflicts-periods/other/boxer-handy.htm

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausnavy/Military%20Action.htm

138.217.120.205 (talk) 03:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

This is a history of the Royal Australian Navy, which was formed in 1911, well after the Boxer Uprising Nick-D (talk) 03:24, 9 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

GA Reassessment edit

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:History of the Royal Australian Navy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article is being reviewed as part of the WikiProject Good Articles. We're doing Sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. This article was awarded GA-status back in 2006, so I will be assessing the article to ensure that it is still compliant.Pyrotec (talk) 14:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Initial comments edit

This article is quite comprehensive in respect of its scope and is fairly well referenced; however there are many unreferenced paragraphs and some references are broken or are inadequately referenced. I will add some details below. Pyrotec (talk) 21:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • Pre-Federation navies -
  • Reference 2 is inadequately specified.
  • Formation -
  • The final two paragraphs, half the section, are unreferenced.
  • World War I -
  • Ref 9 appears to be a book. The relevant page number or pages numbers should be citated.
  • Ref 10 is a broken web link.
  • Ref 11 is a broken web link.
  • The 1918–19 influenza pandemic -
  • The second paragraph has an undated {citation needed} flag - I'm not certain how long it has been there.
  • Ref 17 leads to a web-based index page. The link as currently given does not provide any means of verification.
    • South Pacific aid mission -
  • In the first paragraph, Ref 18 confirms an apology. Only this one sentence is referenced. The rest of the paragraph is not WP:verifiable.
  • It is not clear what ref 19 is.

....to be continued. Pyrotec (talk) 21:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

There are various other sections with {citation} need flags, all of them undated. Pyrotec (talk) 19:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Overall summary edit

On balance, the article is reasonably well referenced, the prose is good, the article is comprehensive in scope and is well illustrated. I'm therefore going to close this review and mark the article history as GA-status: "Keep". Pyrotec (talk) 19:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

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GA Reassessment edit

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:06, 21 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Significant portions of the article lack inline citations. This is a violation of criterion 2b. There are also a few old maintenance tags. (sidenote: this article received a GAR 13 years ago, see Talk:History of the Royal Australian Navy/GA1) Phlsph7 (talk) 08:24, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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