Talk:History of education in New Zealand

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This article is very important to an understanding of NZ Education. It deserves a high rating of importance. Withit 10:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Substituted at 18:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Before 1878

If one reads this article one gets the impression that education starts in New Zealand with the passing of the Education Act 1877 and begins with that Act coming into force on 1 January 1878. This is misleading. European operated schools were already established in the various Provinces before 1878, with some form of school based education commencing as early as 1815. Usually these were Missionary or Church based schools, though some private schools also existed. The national system was mostly based on the system already established in Canterbury, and that dates from the 1850s. Canterbury's first school opened in the Lyttelton immigration barracks on 6 January 1851,[1] just three weeks after the first ship arrived. By 1873, Canterbury Province already had a Board of Education, over 80 School Districts, with elected School Committees, and free secular education, for example. As mentioned in the current clean-up note this sort of pre-1878 history needs to be added. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• I agree and am adding a paragraph to Primary Schools. With the material above it might form a separate pre 1878 section. Johnragla (talk) 23:35, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Update of references

Kia ora folks, I have begun checking, updating and archiving references and will gradually move them all into the reflist. This allows a cleaner visual editing window and a good way to show multiple use by using the name. However editors are free to continue adding sources to the main text; the two systems can live with each other!Realitylink (talk) 01:46, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Tag and section on National Standards

Kia ora, I think we can remove some of the tag requirements - I just need to think about the integration of church schools - will look at this over the next few days. The section on National Standards needs a lot of attention as there are large tracts of texts and research claims without references. Maybe the first and last paragraphs almost make it; the rest probably needs a re-write. What is the thinking?Realitylink (talk) 02:45, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I have added, corrected and sourced more information in this section. The case could be made for a separate article for this topic, so anybody feels that way inclined, go for it it! The tag has been removed. Next steps for me to update the section on Tomorrows Schools and add more information around education for Māori. Kia ora Realitylink (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Looking at setting up sub articles

Hi all, I take the point of the tag and would be happy to work with others to set up sub-articles. I have thought for a while that a separate article on Tomorrows schools - which could bring in the section on the review - would be good. I also reckon the Currie Report should have its own article, even though it was axiomatic to the history of education in the country. I have done a lot of work on this article, but never really felt those controversies were very relevant and they could definitely be shortened or even removed. I am currently working on the curriculum review update - again very important - but agreed, getting too wordy. Again, what about an article focussing on the development of the NZ curriculum - perhaps post-war? Sub-headings are a possibility; not sure they would address the tag. I look forward to hearing from others. This is an important page which needs to be sound. I can set up some draft articles and share these with interested editors to work on collaboratively, so if you are interested, contact me. Realitylink (talk) 00:51, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I have done some serious pruning - mostly in regard to Picot (moved), Currie Report (developing draft) and Tomorrow's Schools (susbstantial draft incorporating most of what has ben taken from this article being developed). I also deleted a couple of items from the controversy section that aren't really relevant to history of education. Now, if there are concerns with what I have deleted, contact me. It can all be returned and I have a full copy of the old article prior to this revision. I am thinking that the tag can probably come off now? There is always going to be a lot of content in a history project, and while I will go back and see what can be furthered shortened or summarised, it is pretty close.Realitylink (talk) 01:58, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

I deleted the later section of Controversies as these seemed irrelevant and took up a lot of space. I will continue to edit and summarise the article while keeping it current. The tag has therefore been removed. Kia ora.Realitylink (talk) 20:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)