Talk:History of agriculture in Scotland/GA1

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 15:08, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi! Will review this. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 15:08, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Update: A bit busy now, I think I will be able to get to this only by the end of this week. Cheers! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 18:45, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks for taking this on. I look forward to developments.--SabreBD (talk) 20:25, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

@Sabrebd: Hi, I took some time out to finish a couple of reviews. I am adding all my comments below:

Lead

• The lead has 4 paras and that agrees with WP:MOSLEAD, but I believe the paras need to be shortened. The present size of the lead is 6,446 bytes, I guess this could be halved. The lead should look like a summary, but at the moment it looks like a long essay.

I have edited this down as much as I can, while keeping the overall summary.--SabreBD (talk) 23:03, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Land and climate

• This could be better renamed "Geography and climate"

 Done

• Can we wikilink the countries? Optional.

Obvious countries are usually not linked.--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

In most articles they link all or none of the countries. I am not sure how we can differentiate between countries on our own... Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 15:47, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

WP:OVERLINKING says that thinks that should not normally be linked include: "The names of major geographic features and locations, languages, nationalities and religions".--SabreBD (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• Scotland is roughly half the size of England and Wales and has approximately the same amount of coastline Does that mean Scotland's area is as large as its coast (not possible I am sure) or is its coastline of the same length as those of these two countries? If the latter case, write "...England; its coastline is as long as that of either England or Wales".

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• but only between a fifth and a sixth of the amount of the arable or good pastoral land, under 60 metres above sea level, and most of this is located in the south and east. This can be made into a separate line. Begin with "However".

 Done, not quite in the way suggested here because of other changes.--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• We need Convert templates here for length measurements.

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• fishing, the key factors Unnecessary comma

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• Its east Atlantic position means that it has very heavy rainfall Say "...position causes very heavy rainfall"

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• today about 700 cm per year What does "today" mean? Say as of which year.

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• Link or explain acidity, salt spray, quicksand

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Prehistory

• At times during the last interglacial period "At times" is not needed

It did not have that climate for the entire period. That seems to change the meaning, but I am open to suggestions.--SabreBD (talk) 15:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, then we do not need any reword. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 15:46, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• Link glacier, antler, Roman, birch, oak and hazel

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 15:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• What is a cairnfield?

It explains in the next clause - I have put this in brackets for emphasis.--SabreBD (talk) 15:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• "cow's milk" can be simply put as "cow milk"

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 15:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Middle Ages

• Northern Britain Why does northern have "N"?

Because the source used it. Essentially it is a way of talking about what is now Scotland and northern England when the term Scotland did not have its modern meaning.--SabreBD (talk) 22:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• The climate meant that more oats and barley were grown than corn Better say the climate was more favourable for oats and barley than for corn.

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 22:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• The average amount of land used by a husbandman in Scotland might have been around 26 acres Convert template for the area.

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 22:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• What is a runrig?

Linked and explained.--SabreBD (talk) 22:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• in the immediate aftermath of the Black Death (1349) was still buoyant Could a word or two be added about the Black Death?

 Done--SabreBD (talk) 22:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Early modern era

• local tenants-in-chief, who held legally held their land directly from the king and who by the sixteenth century were often the major local landholders in an area, grew in significance. Source for this part?

It is the next reference - Mitchison, Lordship to Patronage, p. 79.--SabreBD (talk) 22:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I could spot no troubles with the rest of the article. The prose is interesting and well-written, with appropriate images alongside. No copyvios detected, sources fine. These issues resolved, I will be glad to promote this. Great job! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 08:41, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Sabrebd, are you there? If you do not respond soon, Sainsf may have to fail the article. Display name 99 (talk) 20:28, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I am, but it was completed a bit earlier than I expected. I will probably have time to deal with it sometime this week.--SabreBD (talk) 23:27, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sabrebd: No haste, it was natural as I had put up that update about my absence. Will keep the review open till the issues are addressed :) Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 08:12, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--SabreBD (talk) 08:19, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sabrebd: You there? 5 days since your last response. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 13:29, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I see no more issues with the article. I believe this is ready for promotion. Cheers, Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 05:21, 11 April 2016 (UTC)