Talk:History of Smooth Island (Tasmania)

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Unsolved mysteries edit

Smooth Island's Unsolved Mysteries
Topic Background Unsolved question
Amelia Pillinger, nee Little Death on 1 Oct 1876 following a "short but painful illness" Cause of death?
" " Burial site?
" " Further details?
Edward James Pillinger Suspicious death (~ 1.5y after his wife's death). Edward's body was found at Neil Milford's farm[1][2], in an advanced state of decomposition, with a bottle of strychnine was found nearby. Was it a homicide or suicide?
Less important notes

Clarification edit

It is highly unlikely that Smooth Island (Garden Island) was the site of construction of the ship in this reference[3]

References

  1. ^ http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/lewis-richard-2356
  2. ^ http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/lewis-sir-neil-elliott-7188
  3. ^ "Heritage Victoria - Victorian Heritage Database". Vhd.heritage.vic.gov.au. Retrieved 2015-11-29.



For further research edit

In The LIST[1], overlay Land District Chart [2] suggests that several individuals 'may' have had licences on Garden Island (although, the map may be instead referring to to northern point of Chronicle Point). The map information is: "Lic 923" or "Lic 925" P.C.M Hall & L.R. Squaire ...Lic no 2931 J.A. Ettershank".

  • 31/12/16: This link is currently dead, but may reveal more information later: [3]

A "James Quested" acquired land in county of Pembroke in 1843. It is uncertain whether this is Garden Island or not.[4]

- Have only seen a Snippet view of this:

"Smooth Island, the Garden Island of after days, proved to be a spot visited by inhabitants of the district, while the country on the mainland, stony and barren, though covered with woods, was much frequented by Kangaroos"[5]

Does this add anything new (I can't remember it)[6]


When in Hobart edit

[7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21]

References

  1. ^ http://maps.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/app/list/map
  2. ^ https://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/app/content/data/geo-meta-data-record?detailRecordUID=56f107b0-f8b8-44b4-a86c-977bc5e2e050
  3. ^ https://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU695AU695&q=ettershank+%22garden+island%22+2931&oq=ettershank+%22garden+island%22+2931&gs_l=serp.3...26944.27992.0.28105.5.5.0.0.0.0.330.330.3-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..4.0.0.BamURKBg8JE
  4. ^ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6__MBpyro0EZEdjZWRLLUZwaFU/view?usp=sharing
  5. ^ https://books.google.com.au/books?id=fR1XAAAAMAAJ&dq=EAGLE-HAWK+NECK+%22garden+island%22&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22garden+island%22
  6. ^ http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/162301701?searchTerm=%22Gull%20island%22%20%22Norfolk%20bay%22&searchLimits=
  7. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=LSD173/1/1095
  8. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=PWD18/1/2408
  9. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=AA774/2/42
  10. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=AA774/2/43
  11. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=AD266/1/701
  12. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=NS5051/1/3381
  13. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=NS1054/1/479
  14. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=NS1054/1/480
  15. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=NS1054/1/481
  16. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=AB937/1/9
  17. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=AB937/1/8
  18. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=NS4701/1/8
  19. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=NS4568/1/681
  20. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=AF396/1/626
  21. ^ http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=NS4431/1/17

References edit

Books to access edit

[1] Re: Charles Booth's diaries. Visit to island in Feb 1937 is complete, however there are 2 other references to "Garden Island" in the book. Google Books only has Snippet views for these 2 snippets.

Subdivisions of Sorell edit

Carlton, Coppington, Dunalley, Forcett, Kellevie, Murdunna, Nugent, Sorell, Wattle Hill [1]

Subdivisions of Tasman edit

Eaglehawk neck, Highcroft, Koonya, Nubeena, Port Arthur, Saltwater River, Taranna [2]

Next time at library edit

Probably the most useful historical map in Tasmanian archives: http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=AF396/1/1164 Jkokavec (talk) 03:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Information on Quested's occupancy status from http://researchtasmania.com.au/documents/biographies/MACK_Ann.pdf:

  • Hobart Town Gazette, 23 November 1880 p.1165


References

Relevant? edit

Court case, unknown if this refers to somewhere along Huon river: [1]

Sources of contradiction about location of the island Bowen placed the mutinous convicts edit

Mercury newspaper 28 April 1804

  • Mercury newspaper 28 April 1804

The Mercury Wednesday 28 April 2004, page 25

Convicts banished to an island

28 April 1804

Dr Mountgarret arrived during the morning from Risdon Cove to find out if Knopwood still wanted to travel to Risdon. Knopwood resaid he would, but the funeral of the Edwards girl -- the first formal one in the new colony -- was the first priority.

The event took place early that afternoon, with the Governor, all officers and many of the settlers in attendance. With that ceremony out of the way Knopwood left immediately after for Risdon Cove, joined by Mountgarret, Dr Bowden and the surveyor, G.P. Harris, and that evening these gentlemen dined there.

As night fell a somewhat melancholy mood begins to descend on the company around the table.

That very day it was exactly one year ago that they had waved farewell to their home country.

Much had happened since, but one thing had stayed the same. Their future remained as uncertain as it had been 12 months before and none of those around the table that evening would ever see the green fields of England again.

Absent from that dinner was Lieutenant Bowen, who earlier that day had left the Risdon settlement to take his mutinous convicts (all Irishmen, scoffed Knopwood in his diary) in a boat and dumps them on Smooth Island in Frederick Henry Bay with enough provisions for one month. Bowen then continued his journey by carrying his boat across the neck on Bruny Island into the D'Entrecasteaux Channel and up the Huon River for an exploratory journey.


(There is some confusion about the exact island on which the convicts were dropped off. Later, Collins gives their return to Hobart Town as from Hope Island, in other correspondence becoming an Island in Storm Bay).


NOTE: (United) Irishmen: During the 1790s many social, economic and especially political issues caused great unrest in Ireland, resulting in an uprising against the British in 1798.

As a result of this and subsequent events, many Irish people over the years ended up in British jails and were then sent out to Australia as convicts. But nothing was resolved by all this, and the long-term results of 1798 still bedevil the relationship between England and Ireland to this very day.

[1]

Convicts kept in Terrible conditions on island edit

http://www.mercurynie.com.au/resources/tasmania%20200/june.htm

  • Extract the exact quotes when access to Knopwoods journals found Vitreology (talk) 14:11, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Digitised Tasmanian titles office records edit

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aLy3ZVcpleYLMLlQbSRiW8nPqSZ6S3ziJOYr0jhtw_Y/edit#gid=0

References edit

Notice: Article title edit

As seen in the disambiguation page (Smooth Island), there are islands named "Smooth Island" within both Tasmania as well as South Australia.

The content of History of Smooth Island (Tasmania) and Smooth Island (Tasmania) are tightly linked, so their placename conventions must be WP:CONSISTENT.

As per WP:PLACEDAB:

  1. Disambiguation of Smooth Island (Tasmania) from Smooth Island is warranted.
  2. Disambiguation of History of Smooth Island (Tasmania) from History of Smooth Island is warranted.

However, Australian placename conventions have been a highly contentious matter which lacks community consensus, despite having been extensively discussed for over 10 years.[[1]]. Vitreology talk 06:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Reply