Talk:History of Cornell University/GA3

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Aiken drum in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: AD 22:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
    See below
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
    Please check for citation needed tags, dead links, and ensure that reference style is consistent throughout. Please make sure all facts are cited; large parts of the prose have no citations at all - I've tagged some.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  

Prose issues:

  • "In fact, seven of the first 11 women to become licensed veterinarians in this country were Cornell graduates" - sounds a little colloquial with 'in fact'.
  • "Cornell, which had been offering a four-year scholarship to one student in each New York assembly district every year and was the state's land-grant university, was determined to convince the state to become a benefactor of the university". This seems confused.
  • "The Home Economics School, in turn, became to develop classes in hotel administration in 1922" Became to?
  • "The school quickly gained national stature when U.S. Secretary of Labor Frances Perkins, who was the first female US Cabinet member, who served longer than anyone else as Secretary of Labor (12 years), joined the ILR faculty." Who, who. Too listy.
  • "the Legislature placed all state-funded higher education into a new the State University of New York (SUNY)" A new the?

Images:

  • All seem to check out, but I don't think the copyrighted logo is necessary on an article about the history.

Response edit

Thank you for your helpful review. I have fixed the prose issues. However, there is a difference between having the text refer to academic years by a date range "x-y" and saying "Between x and y" which implies two separate calendar years. I am working on the needed citations, to meet the GA criteria of "provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged." Racepacket (talk) 12:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

All dead links fixed, working on [citation needed]'s. Racepacket (talk) 03:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

They are not all fixed - see this. Also, you appear to have duplicate ref links - e.g. to the bio of Andrew Dickson White at Gutenburg, which need fixing. AD 14:57, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
I have fixed the Alpha Phi Alpha link and updated the link from http://www.vet.cornell.edu/about/history.htm to http://www.vet.cornell.edu/about/history.cfm . I have reviewed the Andrew Dickson White links and they seem fine to me. Because page numbers are not provided in the Project Gutenburg version, we cite to "Chapter Numbers", so each separate ref has a different Roman Numeral to reference a different chapter. I don't see any way of combining them without losing that specificity. Do you have a suggestion? Racepacket (talk) 18:51, 3 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
They link to the same URL, and I missed that they have different chapter numbers. Ideally, it would be better to link directly to the chapters. Is that possible? Otherwise, this looks about ready to be promoted. AD 22:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Volume I and Volume II of AD White's Autobiography download as separate files, and we indicated which of the two volumes are used in each citation. The citation URL takes you to a download page for that volume, where you can pick the format you wish - HTML, Kindle or text. With the HTML and text, I do not see a more specific way of giving the URL, and I have not tried the Kindle version. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 23:30, 3 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
OK then. AD 13:31, 4 January 2011 (UTC)Reply