Talk:History of Bahrain

Qaramita?

We are missing here great parts of the Bahraini history. What about the Qaramita? 20:29, 8 October 2005 (UTC) i love bahrain and i have a book for it

Continual Revisions

This page has come under sustained vandalism with attempts to continually delete content and remove links - specifically to give the Islamists' narrative of recent history. Therefore rv deletion of references to the role of Iran and the spread of Islamic fundamenatlism as an ideology in the 1970s, and as well as the consequent social affects. Sources that refer to terrorism in during the 1990s uprising are deleted as are links to the work of Bahrain's leading Marxist academic Abdulhadi Khalaf. -- Rick James Style 00:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

82.194.62.22 has been warned and banned frequently by admin for repeated vandalism and destruction of content. Frequently used sock puppets for reverts. This page is yet another example. -- Rick James Style 12:10, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Al Qarmatians and Mongols

Placed Al Qarmatians and Mongols under separate headings because the two periods have nothing in common and are seperated by hundreds of years.

Will delete the Mongol heading if there's no more info and include the sentence there elsewhere. -- Dilmun 12:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

No objections received. In which case will delete heading 'Mongol invasion' as there is not enough text to justify it as a separate section. Dilmun 12:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Lead sentence

In the lede sentence it says: "... which is thought to be an inaccurate folk etymology... according to some scholars ..." This sounds terribly weasily. Who thinks so? Which "scholars"? Also, I looked at the referenced url, which is an almost century-old source and long since outdated with respect to the Verethegna bit. I don't know if the term Bahrain derives from that or not, but if it does, then it would be 3rd century CE, which is pretty darn recent, and it sounds odd that a conquered kingdom would get the name "victorious". Moreover, Verethregna is certainly not a slayer of any dragon, least of all one named "Verethra", which means obstacle, and Verethregna means "one who overcomes obstacles", which essentially that divinity's role in the Avesta. And "one who overcomes obstacles" is of course "victorious", which is what "Bahram" means. See also Vahram#In_Avestan_scholarship. -- Fullstop 16:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Stop vandalising

Dear Dilmun - The Wikipedia is not a personal website, to prepare it the way that you like. You are vandalising this article by removing, and reinstalling the previous entry that has no historical credibility, and contain many mistakes. If this happen again, I have to report you to the Wikipedia. 87.194.82.148 19:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Stop adding nonsense to wikipedia then. Your edits are bogus. For a start:

1. Your new 'Ancient History' Section lasts until 1787.
2. Your editions are uncredited copy & paste from [1]

-- Dilmun 21:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The source for the info are United Nation and [http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm CAIS]. You can hide yourself in a cocoon and claim a false history for Bahrain, but this encyclopaedia has not been designed to serve your falsification. You have to accept that facts, including Bahrain was part of Iran until 1970s, and even today 65% of inhabitants are Iranian origin. Today we live in the age of inforamtion, and there is no place for falsification! Zoroastrian 05:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

You're right Wikipedia's no place for falsification which is why I've reverted your edits based on your [http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm CAIS] document. -- Dilmun 14:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

CAIS bogus document

The [http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm CAIS document], "How Was separated from Iran?", on which User:Zoroastrian sources their edits is clearly a bogus document (as well as lacking basic standards of English). The author states he is a senior research member of "Centre for Geopolitics and International Borders studies" at the School of Oriental and African Studies at the London University. This Centre does not exists. There is no mention of this Centre except in the CIAS document - searching Google and other sources will confirm this. As the document is authored by a representative of an institution that does not exist, the document is clearly bogus and cannot be considered credible by wikipedia's standards. The standard of the document is further emphasised by its clearly unacademic language with its (amusing) use of terms such as 'dastardly' and 'depersonalisation'. With its propaganda-style rhetoric and uncertain origin this document is not a valid source. -- Dilmun 14:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Visit [2] to obtain more info about the author of the article in question. Also, if you pay attention, you will hopefully realize that the published article is a “Translation” i.e. should be translated accurately as possible to match the the published article in original language.

With regard to the Geopolitics & International Boundaries Research Centre visit: [3] and [Geopolitics & International Boundaries Research Centre] to confirm its existence! Also their email address is: rs7@soas.ac.uk!

Finally, I have no intention to humiliate you by proving you wrong, in fact I’m helping you to overcome your state of denial with regard to Bahrain. Zoroastrian 12:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

CAIS Permission

The article is from CAIS with explicit permission to release the content to Wikipedia. The notice says: CAIS releases the contents of this page (http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm) to "Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopaedia" (including the images)- Date of release: 18 December 2006. Zoroastrian 09:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Confirmation CAIS blacklisted document

The CAIS document referred to above has now been 'blacklisted' by wikipedia and references to it are being deleted across wikipedia by User:Siebrand (who edited the page yesterday to remove the links). The History of Bahrain page was rewritten in December 2006 and January 2007 using the CAIS document as the source. As there's agreement on the non suitability of this source these edits need to be reverted. Untangling this mess is going to be impossible, so I'm going to revert the page to the pre-CAIS edits. If this means that I've deleted an edit you've subsequently made, I hope that you will simply re-add the information. I accept that this isn't ideal, but what's the alternative? Let the current edits stand? Dilmun 20:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

POV check

The page should be double-checked for accuracy and neutrality by third-party neutral users. -- 07fan (talk) 16:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You still have to state your reasons as per Wikipedia:POV check:

Place {{POV-check}} at the top of the suspect article, then explain your reasons on the talk page of the suspect article. To specify the section of the discussion on the talk page, use {{POV-check|talk page section name}}.

-- Slacker (talk) 17:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The discussion for the POV check is on Talk:Bahrain -- Enric Naval (talk) 21:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Bani Utbah

Hi there, I just became a member and I tried to edit a section of an article but regretfully I have not succeeded. The section or sections I mean relate to the Bani Utbah or the Uttub section and the history of Bahrain since 1783. The Al Khalifa family, the current Royal Family in Bahrain IS a member of the Bani Utbah tribe. The battle in Zubarah in 1782 was between the Uttub, commanded by the Al Khalifa, and their followers and Shaikh Nasr bin Mathkoor. the Al Bin Ali tribe are an important section of the Bani Utbah or the Uttub but are by no means the only one. The person who wrote those sections shows a clear ciast against the Al Khalifa family and distorts the reader by twisted and if not outright false historical facts. sources backing my claims include but are not limited to Gulf Intelligence: Selections from the Records of the Bombay Government, No XXIV, especially pages 362-425 and 564-568, The Records of Bahrain 1820-1960, Vol I 1820-1868. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amk344 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Al Bin Ali Promotional

There should be some editing on the heavy "Al Bin Ali" promotion on this page. Though this family may be very important on the part of the History of Bahrain, I can see that there is continuous and redundant promoting of this family and the repeated lines regarding the purchase of some land by one of these family members in 1699. This should be only emphasized in the page pertaining to this family whereas in the history of Bahrain, it can be mentioned where the point is made that this family settled here before Al Khalifa, the current royals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.193.241 (talk) 09:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Trade goods of the 18th and 19th century

This article and Bahrain allude to other trade goods supporting its economy beyond slaves and pearls before the oil economy arose in the 20th century. What were the goods originating in Bahrain or were traded there in the 18th and 19th centuries? patsw (talk) 17:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Iranian Revolution and social and political change

"donned by women in preference to the then popular mini-skirt" : this sounds eery to me? Is that a joke?(82.226.137.136 (talk) 08:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC))

The Dawsari Tribe in Bahrain

Shi’ites in Bahrain also known as "Baharna" are the natives who lived in the Historical Region of Bahrain, spreading north to Basra and Kuwait in addition to the East province of Saudi Arabia (Al-Hassa, Al-Qatif). The Baharna are descended from Arabian tribes who had lived in the region since pre-Islamic times; prominent among them in those times were the tribes of Banu Abdul Qays and Rabi'a.

Ṣa‘ṣa‘ah ibn Suhān and Zaid ibn Suhan (brothers) are companions of ‘Alī bin abi Talib (Prophet mohammed's cousin) from Abdul Qays Tribe. They were supporters of Ali when he was the Calipha during the first muslim civil war which divided the muslims into two parties Ali's (Shiítes) and Al-Kulafa' Al Rashdeen (Sunni's). Both of their graves lye in Bahrain and are still visited by Shi'ites to pay their respect. This was in the late 600's, Which is arround +-1200 years from what this section claims that Al Dawsari tribe first brought shi'ites to Bahrain in (1800's AD)?????

Also Maitham Al Bahrani a famous Bahrani shiíte scolar (died in 1280 AD).

The claims by the writer of this section are observe, its either that the writer never read a history book or its a poor way from him to try to re-write the history as he want's it to be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.25.135.121 (talk) 13:27, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

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Change dating system to Common Era

I will be changing the dating system on this article away from the biased, Christian based AD/BC to the common era system.  This will bring the article into alignment with secular usage such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India.  If you object, please state why you are ok with the biased system here. Eupnevma (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Before you go changing AC BC please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style, specifically MOS:VAR. Also, instead of hundreds of discussions regarding the changes on hundreds of different talk pages, get a conversation going here: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 20:26, 3 February 2023 (UTC)