Talk:Hilary Koprowski

Amusing, no?

I love the irony of an anonymous demanding that others deliver their real names. Sorry if that seems inflammatory, but it really struck me as quite entertaining. 68.215.226.236

I love the fact that the article says:In 2006, Koprowski was awarded a record 50th grant from the NIH. My feeling is that a description of that grant is called for. (Afterall..look at all the documentation that is suddenly being required for other parts of the article.) In fact...why not a list of all fifty grants from the NIH?oldcitycat 15:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

What is best included in the AIDS accusation section?

In general terms: 1. What types of information are best included? 2. What degree of detail is best for this section? 3. What is the acceptability of material from Ed Hooper's website and his book? 4. What is the acceptability of material from the film documentary The Origin Of AIDS ? Please include reasons "why" in your answer. Not a usual request, but for now please avoid giving examples in your response. SmithBlue 04:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Jewish?

Is Hilary Koprowski jewish?

No. His parents were agnostic, and he is as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.112.135.3 (talk) 20:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Other perfectly credible sources like New York Times obit. <www-nc.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/us/hilary-koprowski-developed-live-virus-polio-vaccine-dies-at-96.html> say he is of Jewish heritage, but perhaps he said he was agnostic.

One must consider that given the severe implications of his work in the Congo and the benefit to himself of not being self incriminating or being plausibly deniable... that there is good reason to remain suspicious about anything he said. 174.61.207.82 (talk) 10:09, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Hoopers weight

It has been claimed by editors that the OPV AIDS hypothesis is pseudoscience/loopy. The following adresses the weight that historically was given to Hooper's statement of OPV AIDS. Whilst there is reasonable debate about the weight to be given Hooper's self published website there is little room to reject the seriousness with which OPV AIDS was historically treated.

On the basis of non-peer reviewed work (book: The River) Hooper was invited in 2000 (at the urgings of W. D. Hamilton) to present his hypothesis to the Royal Society of London. This act acknowledged Hooper as having gravity (weight) and expertise in this field. And as he has no formal qualifications in this area this expertise was gained through self directed study.

Hooper has continued this self study of the topic and has published his thoughts on his web-site dedicated to OPV AIDS hypothesis.

Researchers who disagree with the hypothesis have since continued to write about their results in terms of "refuting the OPV AIDS hypothesis". This would not be occuring if refutation had already been completed.

The quality of scientists who have supported the OPV AIDS hypothesis must be taken into account; Hamilton and Basagra (see accolades at www.claflin.edu/Academic/BioTech/eminent%20pionner.pdf) are/were mainstream/respected/highly published.

The analysis of scientific debate about OPV AIDS by sociologist Brian Martin (professor) and journalist and science communication Professor Cribbs (www.abc.net.au/science/slab/cribb/biog.htm) that treatment of the OPV AIDS hypothesis by bodies such as magazines Nature and Science form a suppression of the hypothesis must also be taken into account when looking at the absence of OPV AIDS articles in current peer reviewed journals.

In short: he was recognised as possesing significant weight by the Royal Society and his academic supporters have very high credential in their fields. SmithBlue (talk) 04:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Hooper has been scientifically published, "Hooper, E. 2003. "Dephlogistication, Imperial Display, Apes, Angels, and the Return of Monsieur Émile Zola: New Developments in the Origins of AIDS Controversy, Including Some Observations About Ways in Which the Scientific Establishment May Seek to Limit Open Debate and Flow of Information on 'Difficult' Issues." Atti dei Convegni Lincei, 187, 27-230." The onus is now on any editor making claims of "pseudoscience", "loopy" or "fringe" to show citations for such beliefs. SmithBlue (talk) 06:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

The Origin of AIDS documentary

"The documentary film "The Origins of AIDS" contains testimony from African workers that appears to contradict Koprowski's account of the vacination procedures in the Belgian Congo. In particular the Stanleyville laboratory was claimed to be amplifying the vaccine." Please discuss the reliability of this source here. SmithBlue (talk) 04:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

References

Noteable

The otherwise fiction novel 'The Callahan Touch' discusses Koprowski in detail. Felt it worth a mention. Lots42 (talk) 10:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Nationality

Polish? Did he consider himself Polish? Did he keep Polish citizenship? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.146.176.26 (talk) 13:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

He lost his citizenship during the cold war but was given dual citizenship in recent years.Pjk645 (talk) 19:28, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Death

Koprowski died on April 11 2013 of natural causes. It will be in the paper in the near future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.207.112 (talk) 00:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but we cannot make such a change without verifiable, reliable sources reporting the death. We cannot simply rely upon the unsupported assertion of a user. polarscribe (talk) 00:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Trust me, I'm his grandson. He died on the 11th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.207.112 (talk) 13:43, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Again, I'm sorry, but we have no way of verifying that statement - I am not saying that you are not telling the truth, but you must understand there is a long history of vandalism on Wikipedia involving false death claims, etc. such that we have to have external verification of such information. Wikipedia has to rely on reliable, published sources. polarscribe (talk) 17:12, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

The sad event has now been confirmed in the media, and I have updated the article accordingly. My condolences to you and your family. polarscribe (talk) 02:50, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

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