Talk:High Tatras

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The current title, "High Tatra", is incorrect. The name of the range is, as it can be confirmed by Britannica, either "High Tatras", or "High Tatra mountains". Similarly, mountains in Italy are called "Apennines" or "Apennine mountains", not "Apennine". -- Naive cynic 20:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

The name is NOT incorrect, it is a very frequent alternative name (even more frequent than High Tatra). I do not oppose the move, but the alternative name version has to be mentioned. Juro 23:16, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

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Historical names

Juro, there's nothing wrong with mentioning historical names. Look at the Lviv page for example:

(Ukrainian: Львів, L’viv ; Polish: Lwów; Russian: Львов, Lvov; German: Lemberg; Yiddish: לעמבערג; Latin: Leopolis; see also Cities' alternative names)

I don't know the Czech name, perhaps you do? —Khoikhoi 01:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I just have not noticed until now that we add historical names to mountains (towns are a different issue). Can you show a precedense? Juro 01:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure, look at Mount Ararat for example. —Khoikhoi 02:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

ОК then.Juro 02:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Can someone double check?

I got the names of the mountains from a map labelled "High Tatras", but not sure they are all that region. This site [1] lists Bystra as Western Tatras. So I'm confused. Stevage 08:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. And there are more:

• Bystrá - 2248 m. (Slovakia)
• Baranec - 2184 m. (Slovakia)
• Banikov/Banówka - 2178 m. (Slovakia)
• Klin/Starobociański Wierch - 2176 m. (Slovakia/Poland)
• Volovec - 2064 m. (Slovakia/Poland)
• Giewont - 1984 m. (Poland)

All not in High but in Western Tatras

--Lysy^talk 08:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks (my fault). I really suspect it would be best to have a single article on the Tatras, and if and when that becomes excessively big, to break it up. But at the moment, people looking for info on mountains in that region are likely to stop at Tatra Mountains and not even realise there is this page (or Western Tatras etc). Yes, I really think that would be better. Any objections to me merging them? Stevage 02:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. It's because of what I've just written in 'Tatry' article:

Slovak misunderstanding of the "Tatry' term

Hi there. Surfing on the slovak wiki or any slovak Tatry-associated websites, it's unlikely not to be given an impression that Slovaks mistakenly take whole and entire Tatra range for Vysoke Tatry only. In other words, for Slovaks Tatry=Vysoke Tatry, as if the Zapadne Tatry and Belianske Tatry didn't exist at all. Maybe that's because of the name of the city which lies at the foot of Vysoke Tatry, called Vysoke Tatry (city) as well. The other probable cause might be the existance of totally separate and different mountain range, situated about 40 km south of Tatras, called Nizke Tatry (Low Tatras). As far as I'm concerned, they were originally named Niżnie Tatry, which could be translated into Southern Tatras. The error occured when non-slovak and non-polish cartographists (austro-hungarian) notoriously mistaken original slavic names for geographical objects. And so we had e.g. Velky Tatransky Krivan instead of Velky FATRANSKY Krivan, etc. It's for all to see on the old maps available on the internet.

This issue is being quite problematic, because whilst someone looks for an accomodation in Vysoke Tatry, a given slovak website shows him the search outcome in which there is e.g. Liptovsky Mikulas (which lies under Zapadne, not Vysoke Tatry) as well, etc.

Summa summarum, Slovaks cannot simply distinguish their greatest national treasure being all those amazingly carpathians subranges, a pearl of which being Tatry. Now this is quite sad, because a major part of that beautiful country is mountainous, so theoretically, you could expet the inhabitants to be fully aware of what is what and which range is which. Best regards to Slovaks. Please shift your conciousness in those terms. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.12.91.242 (talk) 12:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

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