Talk:Hexamethylene triperoxide diamine

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That is not a very good synthesis, a much better one is megalomania's

http://www.roguesci.org/megalomania/explo/HMTD.html

and please give him credit wiki has raped his work

I edited the above unregistered user's post about the synthesis of this explosive's compound. I feel that the "recipe" for a potential bomb-making component is not required here. Jay Kay 07:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Very good idea indeed, especially as nobody ever would browse the history of the discussion.

Isn't the wiki about spreading information? If someone was going to do something bad, they'd already have this information. Some things are better not to discover on accident. Nerve gas would be a good example of that. Explosives are also. You don't want someone accidentally making explosives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.92.101.14 (talk) 21:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

(Note: I restored the link above and formatted the responses, per WP:NOTCENSORED. (However, that link doesn't actually work any more; this is purely a procedural/historical neatening, though someone added a mirror of this to the article) Wnt (talk) 21:20, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I should add that at least in a brief search, I don't see evidence of any hanky-panky that would disturb a civil libertarian - it at least appears that the same person is likely involved in the new site, and that during the period when the first site was inactive, its information was still mirrored on Wayback, The Pirate Bay, and various MIT pages. Despite some talk forum posts about somebody dying of phosgene or speculations that "the government" had done something, I don't see any actual news stories popping up about it. This is consistent with the general model that all this information has been readily available for many decades, and whatever the inexplicable reason is why we're not up to our eyeballs in IEDs, it's not for a lack of chemistry information. Wnt (talk) 21:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

And I tracked down a working copy of the original page and put the link the article, but someone removed it. I am reverting, as I see no reason not to have the link. 24.98.1.233 (talk) 20:32, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Synthesis / preparation

Megalomania's synthesis is almost a straight copy of the original paper's experimental method, minus the safety warnings.

I have modified the preparative section so it reflects the correct chemistry. I have a reference but it contains experimental detail.

Socksysquirrel 23:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

London bombings

This article contradicts Acetone peroxide (TATP) which also states that that explosive was used in the London bombings. Richard W.M. Jones 08:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Lets leave news reports out of this technical article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.3.65 (talk) 15:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

No, I think news reports are crucial to include. The article is not merely technical but also social, just like, say, heroin. The contradiction probably can be traced back to someone not knowing which organic peroxide it was... Wnt (talk) 05:46, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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