Talk:Henry Mancini

Love Story

Argument for inclusion

From: Tommy Parker393 <> Reply-To: Tommy Parker393 <> To: Nathan Larson <> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:40:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Mancini

hey, they forgot to put on there that he wrote the music for 'Love Story' - that's one of his most famous works, what's the deal with these wiki people- 'Mr. Lucky', who's ever seen that?

Response

For the record, none of these biographies/discographies/filmographies list Love Story:

• http://www.spaceagepop.com/mancini.htm
• http://members.home.nl/mancini/Movie1.html

Further, it would appear the composer was Francis Lai: http://www.filmaffinity.com/en/film866133.html Nathanlarson32767 20:56, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Response, cont'd

Now it appears Mancini and his orchestra did PERFORM the Love Story theme, which was by Francis Lai.

See this Mancini discography: http://www.bjbear71.com/Hank/singles.html

Henry Mancini, "Love Story", RCA Victor [Brazil] EP #LCD-3172 (1971).[Extended Play record]

This Brazilian Extended Play record contains the following tracks performed by Henry Mancini and His Orchestra: 1. Theme from Love Story (Francis Lai) 2. Loss of Love - theme from Sunflower (Mancini-Merrill) 3. Theme from Borsalino (Claude Bolling) 4. Song from MASH (Johnny Mandel-Robert Altman) Nathanlarson32767 21:06, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have to chime in here that I find it absurd to include works Mancini did not compose in his list of songs. He is primarily known as a composer, and a list of "Songs" is naturally going to imply that he wrote the work. Sure, he may have conducted them, but does that mean we include the Beethoven symphonies in a list of Leonard Bernstein compositions? If the point is that his performance of the Love Story theme was particularly famous, then it should be under a separate list of "Performances," not in one that implies he composed the piece. Just my 2-cents worth. Rizzleboffin 19:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Peanuts

I removed the Peanuts listing under selected works, because Guaraldi composed said, and this much is listed in the main body of the article. Wangoed 11:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Should the bit about Guaraldi be removed entirely? I mean -- who confuses Mancini with Guaraldi? I've never encountered that before. Is there some reference for it? --209.149.57.26 04:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, there is this reference at search.com but that seems to be an outdated copy of an earlier mistake here. And there are other sites that are definietly copying the error from here. And it appears that both "The Pink Panther" and "Linus and Lucy" appear together frequently on compilation albums, which may serve to compound the confusion. It appears that this may become a self-fulfilling prophecy over time, but I'm going to change the wording slightly, since the mistake doesn't appear "common" to me. --Geoff Capp 00:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Academy Award winner

Mancini won I believe 3 academy awards which hasn't been mentioned I don't think at all in the article, thus I'm just doing to include this info. --Apoc100 15:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Someone needs to add Lawrence of Arabia to attribute Mancini.

Why? Mancini didn't score "Lawrence of Arabia." Maurice Jarre did. Rich 06:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism?

I am not quite sure why, but I viscerally sense that a good chunk of this article was plagiarized.Davemarshall70 05:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, run the bits you find suspect through Google and see if you can find where they were copied from. Every man and his dog copies stuff out of Wiki these days, so don't be surprised if you find the article passed off as original content in other sites. Try and trace the suspect bits to something that looks reasonably original, as in an official Mancini site or whatever. Vince In Milan 10:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Given that question was posted 2 1/2 years ago, those problems might have been fixed. But still worth checking. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:05, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

John Williams

This sentence puzzles me:

"Mancini also had an uncredited performance as a pianist in the 1967 movie Gunn, the movie version of the series Peter Gunn, the score of which was originally composed by Mancini himself."

John Williams is the pianist in the TV version. Is the TV version different from the movie version? (I'd expect it). And there is no citation for this little bit of information. Is it true? Gingermint (talk) 07:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Typo

"Mancini was born Enrico Nicola Mancini in Cleveland|Little Italy]] neighborhood of Cleveland, Ohio..."

I guess someone wanted to write "...in the 'Little Italy' neighbourhood of...", but did something wrong.

Since my technical skills are virtually non-existent, could someone please clean that up?

Beverly Hills/Los Angeles, California

Seems to me that the words "Beverly Hills/Los angeles, California" has for some reason been merged into one single link. I find that rather messy. Why would anyone want to look up all these 3 places in the same article? Anyway, I am going to split the link into 3 different ones, pointing each of the names to their respective articles which already exist. Oh, and by the way, I'll correct the minor typo as I do so. --TrondBK (talk) 21:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Non-tonal

He experimented with advanced compositional techniques. I can't find anything online to back this up and I can't remember the pieces I've heard but I do know this for sure-for sure. Really quite interesting and uber different from what we generally know him for. That said, there is a lyricism and beauty to the music that even in the non-tonal music you can tell it is by Mancini. Gingermint (talk) 06:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Mancheeni or Manseeni? An IPA guide in the article, please. --Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 19:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I know you won't consider this the final word, but in this video at 3:08, Julie Andrews asks Mancini, "You Henry Mancini?" to which he replies, "That's right." She says "man-see-nee." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gRFyxxCs5g And I know this is original research, but I spoke with Mancini several times in the years before his death, and he himself said "man - see - nee." 72.177.7.99 (talk) 15:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I always heard it pronounced as "man-SEE-nee". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be very useful to put the correct IPA pronunciation in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.132.141.109 (talk) 18:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure the TV series section isn't complete...

There is no mention of "Columbo" where he scored (at least) the first two seasons. There is perhaps more but I noticed this as I was watching Columbo...

Cheers! Luke —Preceding unsigned comment added by QuirkyAussie (talk • contribs) 07:46, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

What Mancini composed was the introductory theme for "NBC Mystery Movie" (which the article mentions), of which "Columbo" was one portion -- he wasn't one of the several men who composed for "Columbo" per se. Richard K. Carson (talk) 00:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

QUESTION????

hi! i just want to ask if he record the song Nadia's Theme (Young and the Restless), if the popular version comes from him beacause it is not included in his documentary. i hope you can help me thakns! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.207.103.248 (talk) 05:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Composers Class=C

Why doesn't the template for Composers show Class=C? --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it's because there is code in Template:WikiProject Composers/class which specifically causes no display when class is set to C (" |c=no"), as "B" displays without problem. It appears also that this is deliberate, as a quick scan of WP:WikiProject Composers/Assessment reveals the line "C not in active use by the project". I didn't look to see why it's not in use for composers. HTH, — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 02:09, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

opening

After World War II, Mancini broadened his skills in composition, counterpoint, harmony and orchestration during studies opening with the composers Ernst Krenek and Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco.

What does "opening" mean here? —Tamfang (talk) 00:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Middle name

Although Mancini changed his first name from the Italian "Enrico" to English "Henry", there is evidence that he kept his middle name.

• The ASCAP ACE Repository lists his composition credits under "Mancini, Henry N."
• Universal Music Publishing Group's entry for "Peter Gunn Theme" includes "Nicola" in the composition credits [1].
• A 1951 Catalog of Copyright Entries lists a copyright registration under "Henry N. Mancini".
• Multiple sources indicate his full name is "Henry Nicola Mancini": American National Biography by Oxford University Press (incorrectly indicating his birth name was Henry not Enrico) [2] and the Scribner Encyclopedia of American Lives [3] (which does indicate "Born Enrico...his first name anglicized to Henry"). Arbor to SJ (talk) 17:44, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Middle initial

The use of the initial "N." cannot in any way be construed as the middle name "Nicola." The name Henry N. Mancini is only found in places where more formality was required, such as on business correspondence and legal documents, etc. The few obscure examples you list cannot supersede the overwhelming fact that his work is always credited as Henry Mancini, the name by which he is known throughout the music industry and the world.

2600:1700:3BC0:E70:D466:26D4:C5A1:979D (talk) 18:43, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

So the article title should and will always reflect that. According to MOS:FULLNAME:

“ While the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known, the subject's full name, if known, should be given in the lead sentence (including middle names, if known, or middle initials). ”

I did not argue that the article title itself should be changed but rather the lead section simply acknowledge his middle name just like practically every other biographical article. Wikipedia guidelines allow that! Arbor to SJ (talk) 20:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

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How is his surname pronounced?

How is "Mancini" pronounced?--87.170.179.174 (talk) 09:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

End matter organization

If it is to be changed, there should be a consensus here about it. If there isn't a consensus, the current headings and heading levels should be maintained and editors who make arbitrary changes to their own personal preferences may and should be reverted. See MOS:NOTES, WP:CITEVAR, and this arbitration ruling. Skyerise (talk) 05:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

New primary source that contradicts previous information -- how to change?

Hello,

I have a fairly unique situation. My friend's grandmother went to high school with Mancini, and according to the yearbook, he actually graduated in 1941, whereas most news articles about him have reported him graduating in 42. I have the photographic proof of this. How would I go about making a proper change and showing this new info even as it contradicts some of the articles about him? Itsmrvance (talk) 19:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

@Skyerise Thank you for your reply, and I apologize if this is not the correct way to go about discussing edits.

I have uploaded the photo of Henri Mancini's senior photo to Imgur, here: [4]https://imgur.com/a/Equ5eIq

Let me know if there is other information I need to supply. Curious as to what the steps would be, if any, to add this information to the page. Thanks for all that you do with working on these pages! Itsmrvance (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

There are a false information in the infobox.

In the article says that Henry Mancini musical career started in 1946, which is after the end of World War II and Glenn Miller died in 1945, before 1946. - 177.188.6.209 (talk) 19:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC).

Piccolo in infobox

Is the piccolo notable enough to be included in Mancini's infobox? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Given it is currently only mentioned once in the article, and it doesn't appear to have played a major role in his career, I would say no. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:00, 22 February 2024 (UTC)