Talk:Help (band)
Latest comment: 6 years ago by 50.90.138.130 in topic Contested deletion
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Contested deletion edit
This is a relatively well known band, even though did not reach much commercial success at its time. Objective information about it is very hard to find due to its very generic name, so one would only use as reference some blog posts or Rateyourmusic. Best regards. CasperBraske (talk) 02:17, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- It seems to pass at least one criterion listed here, since it "has released two or more albums on a major label" (Decca Records). In addition, percussionist Chet McCracken was part of the band The Doobie Brothers for a certain period of time. "Hope" you guys can take this into account. Best regards. CasperBraske (talk) 09:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's a good point - two albums on Decca does indeed meet WP:BAND. I overlooked that when I made the PROD nomination. However, at the moment the article doesn't have any sources at all, so as far as Wikipedia policy is concerned we have no way of knowing whether the band actually existed or not. If we can find any sources that pass the guideline on identifying reliable sources and that also mention that the band released those albums (even a passing mention is fine), then that should be a sufficient level of proof. However, if we can't find any reliable sources that mention the band, the article might conceivably deleted anyway for failing verifiability. Hope this clears some things up. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Wouldn't Rateyourmusic, which has as guideline "Our policy is not to remove any page unless the band doesn't exist." (and I think can also be used as a reference in the main article) and/or a couple of "videos" on YouTube (not self-published) do the job?
- CasperBraske (talk) 15:22, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- In short, no. Youtube is not a reliable source nor is any other website with user-generated content. Bensci54 (talk) 17:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- I see. I'll try to dig a little deeper, but since I can't seem to find any other reliable source, I think it's a case for deletion, anyhow. CasperBraske (talk) 17:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Glad to see this article here, needs a little clean-up from a written POV, but research wise, this being here helps a lot. These band recordings show up on eBay and drive traffic (like me) to find out a little more, sometime confirming my own hunches, or not. KEEP! 50.90.138.130 (talk) 07:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- I see. I'll try to dig a little deeper, but since I can't seem to find any other reliable source, I think it's a case for deletion, anyhow. CasperBraske (talk) 17:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- In short, no. Youtube is not a reliable source nor is any other website with user-generated content. Bensci54 (talk) 17:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's a good point - two albums on Decca does indeed meet WP:BAND. I overlooked that when I made the PROD nomination. However, at the moment the article doesn't have any sources at all, so as far as Wikipedia policy is concerned we have no way of knowing whether the band actually existed or not. If we can find any sources that pass the guideline on identifying reliable sources and that also mention that the band released those albums (even a passing mention is fine), then that should be a sufficient level of proof. However, if we can't find any reliable sources that mention the band, the article might conceivably deleted anyway for failing verifiability. Hope this clears some things up. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- It seems to pass at least one criterion listed here, since it "has released two or more albums on a major label" (Decca Records). In addition, percussionist Chet McCracken was part of the band The Doobie Brothers for a certain period of time. "Hope" you guys can take this into account. Best regards. CasperBraske (talk) 09:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)