Talk:Helleborus orientalis
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editSo "All parts of the lenten rose are poisonous.[9]" followed by "Helleborus orientalis subsp. orientalis (syn. H. caucasicus) is used as a herb for weight loss in Russian medicine.[13]", is this as part of a vomiting routine? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- That's a good question. Short answer, I don't know, but many useful substances (e.g. atropine) come from poisonous plants....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:30, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Sure I get that many poisonous plants derive other substances which aren't immediately deadly, but it's the "used as a herb" thing which bothers me here, because if you're using it as a "herb" the chances are you're not chemically processing it, just grinding it down or boiling it in water or something. This needs clarification. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:34, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- One could argue that as we're taking about a quasimedical if not medical use, that it should only be supported by a Review Article of appropriate secondary source....and hence remove otherwise....I have not looked for sources as yet. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:02, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- Found one paper that reviews traditional use of various hellebore species in tradtional medicine across Eurasia..and doesn't mention it at all...here is a paper on its use in turkish folk medicine...am leaning to removing Russian sentence....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:36, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:33, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- Sure I get that many poisonous plants derive other substances which aren't immediately deadly, but it's the "used as a herb" thing which bothers me here, because if you're using it as a "herb" the chances are you're not chemically processing it, just grinding it down or boiling it in water or something. This needs clarification. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:34, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
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Helleborus orientalis, the Lenten rose, is a species of hellebore in the buttercup family, native to Greece and Turkey. German planters began breeding the species in the mid-19th century, but it fell out of favour as a garden plant in the 1920s. Interest was revived in the 1960s by Helen Ballard, who bred many new varieties. Cultivars have plain or spotted flowers, which can be white, green, pink, maroon or purple. Photograph credit: Dominicus Johannes Bergsma
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