Talk:Helicia

Plants Mid‑importance

	Plants portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Plants, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of plants and botany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PlantsWikipedia:WikiProject PlantsTemplate:WikiProject Plantsplant articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Melanesia: Papua New Guinea Low‑importance

	Oceania portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Melanesia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Melanesia on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MelanesiaWikipedia:WikiProject MelanesiaTemplate:WikiProject MelanesiaMelanesia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Papua New Guinea (assessed as Low-importance).

Indonesia Low‑importance

	Indonesia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indonesia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Indonesia and Indonesia-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IndonesiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndonesiaTemplate:WikiProject IndonesiaIndonesia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Australia: New South Wales / Queensland / Biota Low‑importance

	Australia portal Helicia is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject New South Wales (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Queensland (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian biota (assessed as Low-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia, or the State Library of New South Wales, or the State Library of Queensland.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

South Asia Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject South Asia, which aims to improve the quality and status of all South Asia-related articles. For more information, please visit the Project page.South AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject South AsiaTemplate:WikiProject South AsiaSouth Asia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

India Low‑importance

	India portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Sri Lanka Low‑importance

	Sri Lanka portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sri Lanka, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Sri Lanka on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Sri LankaWikipedia:WikiProject Sri LankaTemplate:WikiProject Sri LankaSri Lanka articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

East Asia (defunct)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject East Asia, a project which is currently considered to be defunct.East AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject East AsiaTemplate:WikiProject East AsiaEast Asia articles

Southeast Asia Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Southeast Asia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Southeast Asia-related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Southeast AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject Southeast AsiaTemplate:WikiProject Southeast AsiaSoutheast Asia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Tambayan Philippines Low‑importance

	Philippines portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Tambayan Philippines, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to the Philippines on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Tambayan PhilippinesWikipedia:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesTemplate:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesPhilippine-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

Vietnam Low‑importance

	Vietnam portal This article is part of WikiProject Vietnam, an attempt to create a comprehensive, neutral, and accurate representation of Vietnam on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.VietnamWikipedia:WikiProject VietnamTemplate:WikiProject VietnamVietnam articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Malaysia Low‑importance

	Malaysia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Malaysia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Malaysia and Malaysia-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MalaysiaWikipedia:WikiProject MalaysiaTemplate:WikiProject MalaysiaMalaysia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Myanmar Low‑importance

Helicia is within the scope of WikiProject Myanmar, a project to improve all Myanmar related articles on Wikipedia. The WikiProject is also a part of the Counteracting systemic bias group on Wikipedia aiming to provide a wider and more detailed coverage on countries and areas of the encyclopedia which are notably less developed than the rest. If you would like to help improve this and other Myanmar-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.MyanmarWikipedia:WikiProject MyanmarTemplate:WikiProject MyanmarMyanmar articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

To-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : offices, ministries and politicians of current cabinet, requested articles on Burmese subjects and articles on smaller towns and villages
Expand : Top-importance and High-importance articles
Photo : add photos of incumbent politicians
Stubs : Category:Myanmar stubs
Update : offices, ministries and politicians of current cabinet after 2015 election
Other : If you know Burmese, go on the Myanmar Wikipedia and make sure each article on the English Wikipedia has one in Burmese also

A fact from Helicia appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 May 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that there are around 100 species of Helicia (H. glabriflora pictured) found from Sri Lanka and China to Australia?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2013/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Helicia.

Wikipedia

More to do …

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

See: IPNI. This must be carefully checked because many of these species names and other taxa are not current, some synonyms, some illegitimate, some nomenclaturally wrong eg. spelling, etc.—in other words beware only some of them are currently accepted species names. ——--macropneuma 10:19, 21 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Quotations from key sources, for readily editing.

A Revised Handbook
to the
Flora of Ceylon
Volume II

Henry Trimen, M. D. Dassanayake, University of Sri Lanka, Peradeniya Campus, Sri Lanka. Kr̥ạsikarma Depārtamēntuva, Smithsonian Institution.
…
1980
…
…
PROTEACEAE
(by CC Townsend*)
A.L. de Juss., Gen. Pl. 78. 1789 ('Proteae'), nom. cons. Type genus: Protea L., Mant. …
…

      *Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.

1. HELICIA

Lour., Fl. Cochinch. 1: 83. 1790. Type species: H. cochinchinensis Lour., Fl.
Cochinch. 1: 83. 1790. Lit.: H. Sleumer, "A revision of the genus Helicia Lour." Blumea 8: 7-79

   Trees or more rarely shrubs with alternate or more rarely subopposite or verticillate, simple, entire or toothed leaves. Inflorescences of spike-like brac- teate racemes, axillary on the old wood or occasionally subterminal; pedicels solitary or geminate, free or more or less connate. Perianth straight or very rarely slightly curved, slender, dilated at the base and the 4-lobed apical limb, the lobes finally becoming free and revolute. Stamens 4, inserted on the base of the perianth lobes; anthers ovoid or globose, sessile or almost so. Hypogynal glands 4, free or fused into a basal cup. Ovary sessile, biovulate, ovules anatropous; style slender and elongate, clavate at the tip with a terminal punctiform stigma. Fruit nut or drupe-like, hard or occasionally the outer layer somewhat fleshy, indehiscent or rarely tardily dehiscent along the ventral suture.
   A large genus of 87 species in S.E. Asia, Malaysia and Eastern Australia.

Helicia ceylanica Gardn. in Calc. J. Nat. Hist. 7: 453. 1847; Meisn. in DC, Prod. 14 : 438. 1857, "zeylanica" sphalm.; Hook. f. in Fl. Br. Ind. 5: 190. 1885; Trimen, Handb. Fl. Ceylon 3: 457. 1895, "zeylanica" sphalm.; Sleumer in Blumea 8: 50. 1955. Type: "Banks of the Massnawatte in the Ambagamuwa District", Gardner s.n. (PDA, holotype).

   Small tree, c. 6 m, with smooth, dark grey bark. Twigs subterete, glabrous, with greyish wrinkled cortex. Leaves oblong or oblong-obovate, 6-15 x 2.5-5 cm, rounded or broadly subacute (rarely retuse) at the apex, cuneate at the base and decurrent along the short (c. 4-6 mm) petiole, coriaceous, glabrous, midrib prominent on the lower surface but plane above, with c. 7-9 pairs of lateral nerves which branch at a little over or under half their length and gradually merge into the reticulate subsidiary venation. Racemes axillary or sited above the scars of fallen leaves, rather dense, the glabrous purple axis c. 5–8 cm long, slightly angular; peduncle 5–8 mm; pedicels slender, expanded above to a horizontal, discoid torus, purple, solitary or geminate, 3-5 mm, glabrous or sparingly pilose; bracts minute (c. 0.5-0.75 mm), glabrous or ciliate, appressed to the pedicels. Flowers pale yellow, 13-19 (-24) mm long, the narrowly ellipsoid-clavate limb 3-4 mm long, the basal swelling c. 2-3 mm long. Anthers 2 mm long. Hypogynal glands oblong- ovate free or connate at the base, obtuse but minutely erose-denticulate at the apex. Ovary glabrous. Fruit c. 2 mm, broadly ovoid, acuminate, deep blackish-purple.

   D i s t r. Endemic in moist upland forests in Central Province, alt. 605- 1360 m; only two gatherings made in the present century, and probably lost in most of its old localities owing to development. Perhaps always rare and occurring only as isolated or small groups of trees.

    Specimens Examined. MATALE DISTRICT: Sudugala Kande, Lagalla, Sept. 1893, Willis s.n. (PDA); Galagama, alt. 910 m, April 1856, s. coll. s.n. (PDA). KANDY DISTRICT: Rangala area, Sept. 1888, Willis s.n. (PDA); Knuckles, Katooloya Stretch, Streamside in jungle, 22 July 1946, Worthington 1951 (K); Ambagamuwa, 8 Feb. 1855, Gardner s.n. (PDA) ; Navalapitiya, Gardner s.n. (PDA); Dolosbage, see Trimen, p. 457. BADULLA DISTRICT: Thotugalla Estate above Haputale, evergreen forest, 18 Apr. 1969, Kostermans 23221! (K).

Article problems

Latest comment: 11 years ago8 comments5 people in discussion

This article has meaningless information synthesized elaborately for no benefit to readers:

"In 1790, notable pioneer botanist João de Loureiro in his Flora Cochinchinensis first formally described this genus Helicia with the Cochinchina (SE Asian) type species Helicia cochinchinensis.[1][2] Loureiro explained the Greek name "έλιξ" (élix) he chose, with the following Latin explanation "Nom. (έλιξ ſpira) a petalis ſpiraliter revolutis.",[1] literally translated to English is "Name: (helix spiral/roll) from petals' spirally revolute".[3] He referred to the petals, now called tepals, spirally revolving or simply rolling or coiling up on themselves, at anthesis (the flowering time when the anthers open).[3][4]"

It is so convoluted and wordy that it says nothing, when it could all just be a parenthetical remark, or, written simply, it could be comprehended. Including the Latin description and translating it for the reader is not of benefit in a genus article on a general encyclopedia, even one that contains as much specific information as Wikipedia, or, if it is, this sentence could be written in a way to make it useful.

"In 1790 João de Loureiro described the genus from the type species Helicia cochinchinensis, a species native to lower elevations in South China and Southeast Asia. The genus name, "έλιξ" (élix), comes from the Greek, and refers to the petals, now called tepals, spirally revolving or rolling upon themselves at anthesis (the flowering time when the anthers open)."

The link, number 4, appears to be to Flicker images. -68.107.137.178 (talk) 23:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Damn, gotta rush off now but I think we can massage this prose better. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I modified the first paragraph. Is this simple enough while still containing the bulk of the relevant info? Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:14, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Much better. Is there a way to clear up that this definition of anthesis is for Proteaceae, but it is a bit different for other plants? Wikipedia often uses parenthetical definitions in a way that implies that is the primary meaning of the word. However, this rewrite takes care of my primary objections for this paragraph. I think editors should check technical information carefully against sources. -198.228.216.170 (talk) 03:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I still think some prose massage is needed, but I do not think DYKs have to be perfect in prose, and that can be worked on in time. -198.228.216.170 (talk) 03:37, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. I'll leave the anthesis issue for someone who actually knows their plants. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:38, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Since you rewrote this so cleanly, can you do the remaining paragraphs of this section? Every botanist does not have to be called notable, and the content is repetitious. Thanks for the help. -198.228.216.143 (talk) 03:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Not a problem. I'll give it a whirl in an hour or so. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

External links modified

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 5 external links on Helicia. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:58, 31 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

External links modified

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Helicia. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:00, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Add topic