Talk:Helene Chung Martin

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Edofedinburgh 03:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 13:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit requested by the subject

The subject of the article has been in contact with OTRS and with her permission (ticket:2015100710002536), I am posting edits that she has requested:

1 I am no longer an Adjunct Research Fellow of Monash University.

I've added this citing a primary source (note that primary sources can only be used for non-self-serving, uncontroversial, straightforward statements of fact; I think this meets that standard (which is not the case for much of the other content of this currently poorly sourced article)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

2 I was the first reporter of Asian descent on Australian television - indeed the first non-Caucasian. (However, I have heard but cannot verify that a yoga practitioner appeared on some late night television show before I began as a reporter on prime time ABC in October 1974.)

This claim cannot be verified through anything but a high quality, reliable, secondary and independent source. No source is supplied to verify this edit and this claim already appears in the article—as unsourced (which is a problem). I did look for a source – even though the burden is on the person seeking to add content to supply a source – and only found a copyright violation in the ACFS April 2015 newsletter, copying that claim from this Wikipedia article. Some of this and related content may be verified through the ABC Around the World general source listed, but it is opaque, with no authorship supplied in the PDF that I can see, and since it is stored at helenechung.com, the inevitable assumption is that it is authored by you, i.e. a primary source for this self-serving claim of accomplishment. Understand, no one is disputing it is true, but that it is unverified through the types of sourcing needed for an encyclopedia article, which only summarizing what is already knowledge about a subject, through the fact already being written about out in the world. Wikipedia is never properly the place for a previously unpublished fact to be first published.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

3 ‘The first woman posted abroad by the ABC, as Beijing correspondent 1983-1986, she also freelanced for BBC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC>, CBS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBS>, Hong Kong <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong> radio, NPR<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR> and NZBC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZBC>.

Same as above. I'm not entirely clear if you are posting the above URLs because you want these words linked (which would not be done by a URL but by a wikilink), or if you are asking that these other Wikipedia articles be used as sources, in which case that would be entirely circular and worthless.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

As the first part of this is repetitive, I suggest you delete it but place the remainder in the opening paragraph, if you wish, expanding it to: ’She has also freelanced for BBC, British Forces Broadcasting Service, CBS, NPR, NZBC and Hong Kong radio.’ (That includes both government and commercial radio).

More unsourced content already in the body of the article. Not sure what you're asking for. Maybe it wasn't in the body at the times of the request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

In addition to below, I should add that I have now checked the entry’s links and find most no longer working:

Pandanus Books no longer works (Pandanus is now defunct) but should you wish you could link the title Lazy Man in China to https://www.newsouthbooks.com.au/books/lazy-man-in-china/

The original placement of a link to an external source in the body was incorrect – not how we cite sources, and we don't link to sites selling a book to verify its existence and authorship.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

ABC Books no longer works though you could use this link should you wish http://www.harpercollins.com.au/9780733322914/ching-chong-china-girl-from-f[..]

Removed per above.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Significant Tasmanian Women no longer works but this does http://www.dpac.tas.gov.au/divisions/csr/information_and_resources/signific[..]

The external links section is what we call a link farm. I have cut it back.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Tasmanian Tin Miners … doesn’t work but this does http://www.helenechung.com/pdf/tasmaniantinminers_010700.pdf (from my website)

Same--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

ABC Around the World DOES still work (from my website)

Same--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Booked Out doesn’t work but this does http://www.icmi.com.au/helene-chung

Same.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Some of 90 colour photos doesn’t work - please delete

Same.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Ockham’s Razor doesn’t work but this does - http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/ockhamsrazor/lazy-man-in-china[..]

Same.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Peter Bligh DOES work

Same.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Chen Yonglin DOES work

Same.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Tasmanian Chungs from Xinhui doesn’t work but this does http://www.helenechung.com/pdf/tasmanian_chungs_021006.pdf (from my website)

Same--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Paternal grandfather’s travel record doesn’t work but this does http://www.helenechung.com/pdf/willichunglife_210413.pdf (from my website)

Same.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

As I am in the process of migrating from PC to Mac I am updating my website. So I will check links again when my site is updated and alert you, if I may, to any links that don’t work.

Same.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

--ukexpat (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2015 (UTC)