Talk:Heaven (Talking Heads song)

Latest comment: 7 years ago by SummerPhDv2.0 in topic "Notable cover versions"

covers

edit

There's a stripped down female vocalist soul version of this song in an episode of Miami Vice - anyone know the artist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.224.46 (talk) 17:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

I looked into it, a more famous (and apparently only cover) is by Voxtrot. listen here. The voice is male though, so you might've been hearing a remix of it vs. cindi lauper. there's a page with that track, and other talking heads covers by notable artists here. I will also add a "covers" section to the article, listing Voxtrot, if you find out the female one, go ahead and add it. Nnnudibranch 03:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Keep this aritcle up

edit

It's been covered so many times and put onto so many best of albums that i don't get why it was deleted... it's not even a stub... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.134.226 (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

"Notable cover versions"

edit

To be a "notable cover version", a recording has to be notable and a cover version of this song.

So, for example, we wouldn't include the Bangles' cover of "Hazy Shade of Winter". While it is notable, it isn't a cover version of this song. It has to be both.

For that reason, none of the non-notable cover versions of this song belong here. They aren't both.

What makes a cover version notable? WP:COVERSONG spells it out. Basically, pretend the original does not exist. Would the cover version pass WP:NSONG?

Yes, sources discussing the band covering the song will mention it. An article on a U2 concert will mention every song they played that night (along with what they were wearing, who looked sick, the light effects and thousands of other trivial details. That kind of coverage is trivial and, in the long run, meaningless.

Yes, sources discussing the song might mention some of the covers. An article about the copyright disputes for "Happy Birthday To You" might mention several uses of the song in several of the thousands of TV shows and movies it has been in. Again, these are trivial.

Basically, we're looking for released covers that charted or covers that have been the subject of substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. The Bangles' "Hazy Shade of Winter" hits both of those marks. Covers that don't simply do not belong here. - SummerPhDv2.0 16:04, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

I concede on how some of the covers may not be considered notable, however K.D. Lang's as part of the album Sing it Loud was in the album charts of multiple countries peaking at 2 in Australia (gaining a gold certification there). The album is also reviewed in many external sources, all of which include talk of the cover, such as: one in the MusicOHM online magazine and one in the Vivicine online magazine and one in the Guardian newspaper. It is also non-trivially mentioned in review a live performance of Lang also in the Guadian. To me, this establishes notability of this one cover at least. - Voello (talk) 22:37, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
Your theory, if applied, would make every song by every notable artist notable, as virtually every album by a notable group is reviewed somewhere. That clearly is not supported by WP:NSONG.
If we were to apply your theory to the Beatles' "Yesterday", we would have another problem. That particular song has been recorded by thousands of artists. Your suggestion would add a list of several hundred of those to the article in a fairly pointless list.
Instead, I propose following the WikiProject guideline WP:COVERSONG and the notability guideline WP:NSONG. - SummerPhDv2.0 00:34, 11 September 2017 (UTC)Reply