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Suggestion for Tinctures List edit
| Colour | Hatch Style | |
|---|---|---|
| Or | Steelers | |
| Argent | Ravens | |
| Gules | Bengals | |
| Azure | Browns | |
| Vert | Bengals | |
| Sable | Browns | |
| Purpure | Bengals |
If someone is willing to fill in more correct information, I'm happy to create the necessary patterns from this file. NikNaks talk - gallery - commons 09:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- What do "steelers", "ravens" etc. mean when it comes to heraldic tinctures? Arms Jones (talk) 15:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
French references edit
The first reference is unclear. It seems to be quoting something, but I'm not sure what. It is written entirely in French (I think), and the quote spans the whole reference. Google Translate seems to enforce that this comes from a book, but it's Google Translate and I don't speak French. Can somebody help or give an explanation?
Vkb123 (talk) 13:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Update: It is indeed from a book, referenced in the article itself, next to the reference. Can someone please make this more clear in the reference?
- Vkb123 (talk) 13:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Not just French, it looks like Middle French, going by those archaic spellings. — Octavo (talk) 18:02, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Unicode edit
Should we add the system used on Unicode code points. It has the colors, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, Black, White, Gray, Light blue, Pink, and Brown 67.81.132.165 (talk) 22:33, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Good idea. I'm starting a table for it. — Octavo (talk) 17:20, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Vert Lobkowitz edit
How sure are we that the given pattern for Lobkowitz's vert is right? On the template, it's currently not defined, just inheriting its style from bleu celeste. — Octavo (talk) 18:06, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Oh, I see in this reference image that it's close but not a perfect match. I might try fixing that up. — Octavo (talk) 18:10, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Done. It had looked like and now it looks like . — Octavo (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Neubecker edit
This whole article is infuriatingly under-referenced (as already indicated by a hatnote and a number of citation needed tags). However, at one point we say, "Ottfried Neubecker maintains that the hatching system in heraldry was invented by de la Colombière and not Petra Sancta who only popularized the system through his second treatise titled Tesserae gentilitia, published in 1638." I've checked Neubecker's English-language Heraldry: sources, symbols and meaning (1977), in which he says (p. 187) "The Jesuit priest Silvester Petra Sancta is wrongly credited with the invention of heraldic hatching. In fact he only worked for its wider adoption in his classic work Tesserae gentilitae." I'm going to add that reference for want of anything better, but it's only a passing remark (in an illustration caption), and doesn't mention de la Colombière, so I suspect Neubecker probably discussed this at greater length in one of his many German publications - a better reference still needed. GrindtXX (talk) 15:31, 28 November 2023 (UTC)