Talk:Hatcham

Latest comment: 6 years ago by InternetArchiveBot in topic External links modified

Source material moved from article edit

From 'A History of the County of Surrey'(Maldon 1912):

MANOR

In 1086 the manor of HATCHAM, later HATCHAM BARNES, was held of Odo, Bishop of Bayeux, by Gilbert Maminot, Bishop of Lisieux. Brixi had held it of King Edward, and then and in 1086 it was assessed for 3 hides. There was a wood worth three hogs. Its value, unaltered since the time of King Edward, was 40s. (fn. 4) Later it appears that the Maminot barony included three fees at Hatcham, which owed castle-ward service to Dover. (fn. 5) These during the second half of the 12th century were held by Gilbert de Hatcham, (fn. 6) and later by Richard de Vabadun, (fn. 7) who was dead before 1261–2, when his heirs were assessed for his fees. (fn. 8) His daughter Sarah married Roger de Bavent, to whom John de Say, who had married Avelina sister of Sarah, quitclaimed all right in Hatcham in 1240. (fn. 9) In 1285 Adam de Bavent received a grant of free warren in his demesne lands of Hatcham. (fn. 10)

The same family continued to hold the manor until the middle of the next century. In 1343 (fn. 11) Roger de Bavent leased it to Sir Robert de Burton, canon of Chichester, for seven years. He also gave one Robert de Derby a £20 pension out of the manor. (fn. 12) Shortly after he assigned the manor to the king, but in 1346 (fn. 13) received back a life interest in it. Edward III granted the manor in 1355 to the Prioress of Dartford, a grant confirmed in 1372 (fn. 14) after a surrender in 1371. (fn. 15) In 1369 John the son of John Adam, who died in 1369, (fn. 16) held various lands of the Prioress of Dartford, including Absolute Croft, Brugelescroft (of the Burnell manor), land in Wridescroft, and in a meadow called Fylysmede. Other names given are Senerismerch, Glotesmerchfeld.

At the Dissolution Hatcham Barnes was valued at £25, and was still charged with a payment to Dover Castle. (fn. 17) The manor was granted in 1556 by Philip and Mary to Ann Duchess of Somerset for her life, (fn. 18) and in 1570 Elizabeth granted the reversion to Walter Haddon for thirty years at an annual rent of £25 (fn. 19) He died seised of this lease in 1572, (fn. 20) and Francis Saunders of Welford, co. Northants, had a term in the manor at his death in 1583. (fn. 21) In 1609 the manor was granted to George Salter and John Williams, (fn. 22) who are said to have conveyed it to Peter Vanlore, and he to Sir John Brooke. Four years later Sir John Brooke and others sold Hatcham Barnes to Sir John Garrard, Sir Thomas Lowe, Robert Offley and Martin Bond, trustees for the Haberdashers' Company. (fn. 23) These three trustees conveyed the estate to the Governors of the Free School of William Jones in Monmouth. (fn. 24) It still forms part of Jones's Monmouth Charity, out of the income of which Jones's Grammar School, the Monmouth High School for Girls and the West Monmouthshire School at Pontypool receive endowments.

The manor of HATCHAM or LITTLE HATCHAM was probably formed from Hatcham Barnes and West Greenwich by subinfeudation. In 1288 John de Horneputte of Hatcham assigned 8 marks rent in Hatcham and West Greenwich to Gregory de Rokesle, (fn. 25) who in 1286 had obtained a faculty from the Abbot and convent of Bayham (holding the manor of Brockley in West Greenwich) for the oratory he had built for the use of himself and his family at Hatcham. (fn. 26) At his death in 1291 Rokesle held of Adam Bavent, lord of Hatcham Barnes, a messuage, 8 acres (32,000 m2) of plough-land, and 5 acres (20,000 m2) of meadow, by suit at the hundred court of Brixton and by payment of 7s. 6d. to the ward of Dover Castle every three weeks. (fn. 27) Gregory left as heir his nephew Roger de Rislepe or Rokesle, who sold the manor to Robert Burnell, Bishop of Bath and Wells, from whom it descended at his death in 1292 to his nephew Philip Burnell, son of his brother Edward. (fn. 28) Philip's son Edward succeeded him and left no issue, his sister Maud, the wife of John de Handlo, being his heir. In 1331 Eustace de Etton and Geoffrey de Scardeburgh, chaplains, were the trustees of a settlement (fn. 29) on John and Maud for life, and on their heirs male; in default to the daughters of Maud, and in contingent remainder to John the son of Sir John Lovel, her first husband; and, lastly, to the right heirs of Maud Burnell.

John Handlo died in August 1346, (fn. 30) leaving Nicholas his son and heir. His Hatcham manor was said to be held of Geoffrey de Say (lord of West Greenwich) by a quarter of a knight's fee and a rent of 5s. every thirty-two weeks to Dover Castle. There were a capital messuage and 20 acres (81,000 m2) of plough-land worth 33s. 4d., and 7 acres (28,000 m2) of meadow at 7s. a year, which lay in a marsh, and therefore were not worth more. Nicholas reassumed the name of Burnell, and at his death in January 1382–3 (fn. 31) died seised of 36s. 4d. rent of assize, held of the manor of Hatcham (Barnes) and of Geoffrey de Say by a tenth of a knight's fee. His son and heir was Hugh Lord Burnell. Hugh Burnell died on 27 November 1420. (fn. 32) He held the manor for life of the gift of Robert Pikedon of Witham, Robert Darcy of Maldon, William Boerley, David Holbeche and others, with remainder to Sir Walter Hungerford, Edmund, son of Sir Walter, and Margery his wife, one of the heirs and daughters of Sir Edward Burnell, deceased, the son of Sir Hugh. Sir Walter and his son and Margery were then living. The manor was said to be held of the Prior of Wormsley at a service not known (but this is apparently incorrect), value 10 marks a year. Edward the son of Hugh Burnell left three daughters: Joyce the wife of Thomas Erdyngton, Katherine Burnell, and Margery the wife of Edmund the son of Sir Walter Hungerford, aged twenty-four, fourteen and eleven years old respectively.

This needs to be used as the basis for the article, not copy and pasted. MRSC (talk) 14:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

External links modified edit

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Hatcham. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:12, 7 December 2017 (UTC)Reply