Talk:Haplogroup NO1

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Has somebody read the paper of Siiri Rootsi et al.: A counter-clockwise northern route of the Y chromosome haplogroup N from Southeast Asia towards Europe? The NO* clade obviously stems from southern China/northern Burma! Centrum9982.100.61.114 (talk) 15:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

2006 ISOGG to 2008 ISOGG

The Y-tree on this page needs to be rewritten, at least, haplogroup N has been greatly altered. Nagelfar (talk) 22:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Haplogroup NO

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Haplogroup NO's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "isogg2016":

• From Haplogroup R (Y-DNA): {http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree}
• From Haplogroup P (Y-DNA): ISOGG, 2016, Y-DNA Haplogroup P and its Subclades – 2016 (20 June 2016).

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:55, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Haplogroup NO

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Haplogroup NO's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Poznik2016":

• From Japanese people: Poznik, G. David; Xue, Yali; Mendez, Fernando L.; et al. (2016). "", "Punctuated bursts in human male demography inferred from 1,244 worldwide Y-chromosome sequences". Nature Genetics. 48: 593–599. doi:10.1038/ng.3559. PMC 4884158. PMID 27111036. {{cite journal}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |last4= (help)
• From Haplogroup C-M8: G. David Poznik, Yali Xue, Fernando L. Mendez, et al., "Punctuated bursts in human male demography inferred from 1,244 worldwide Y-chromosome sequences." Nature Genetics 2016 June ; 48(6): 593–599. doi:10.1038/ng.3559.
• From Haplogroup J (Y-DNA): Poznik, G. David; et al. (25 April 2016). "Punctuated bursts in human male demography inferred from 1,244 worldwide Y-chromosome sequences". Nature Genetics. 48 (6): 593–599. doi:10.1038/ng.3559. PMC 4884158. PMID 27111036. Retrieved 12 June 2016.
• From Haplogroup O-M175: G. David Poznik, Yali Xue, Fernando L. Mendez et al. (2016), "Punctuated bursts in human male demography inferred from 1,244 worldwide Y-chromosome sequences." Nature Genetics 2016 June ; 48(6): 593–599. doi:10.1038/ng.3559.
• From Haplogroup O-M176: G. David Poznik, Yali Xue, Fernando L. Mendez, et al., "Punctuated bursts in human male demography inferred from 1,244 worldwide Y-chromosome sequences." Nature Genetics 2016 June ; 48(6): 593–599. doi:10.1038/ng.3559.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

No "NO" map

The map I removed from this article should not be displayed again. It is not taken from an academic paper but is the creation of a Wikimedia user calling himself "Malucioni". It does not accurately describe the distribution of the haplogroup this article concerns (NO, a very rare haplogroup) but is rather a merfing of the distribution of all clades of the much more common divergent descendants of NO, N and O. This is an inaccurate, misleading, and falsified portrayal of what is actually an extremely rare haplogroup. - Hunan201p (talk) 00:45, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

First, many maps on wikipedia are user generated. That's not a valid reason to remove.

Second, there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the content at hand. As I said, "NO doesn't exclusively refer to NO* so it does includes the distribution of its descendent haplogroups." Without taking into account of the last comment, you still went ahead to revert to your removal. From what you say, you seem to think that this article is only about NO*, but it's not. Please look at other articles on haplogroups, such as Haplogroup P or Haplogroup R1b to see the standard practice. The articles about parent haplogroup do not solely represent the basal mutation excluding all child haplogroups. R1b has a map too, which includes the full geographical reach of its child haplogroups. You can see that it's not just a map of R1b*, but a map that merged all of its subclades.

Unless you are asserting that we should change all haplogroup pages to make every distribution map to exclusively show the basal group, excluding the distribution of the descendants, I will be restoring the article to its original state. Please reach concensus here first before editing.Newslack (talk) 01:15, 6 October 2019 (UTC)