Talk:Hand in Glove/GA1

GA Review

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Checklist and analysis

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   Not sure about the sentence "Author Simon Goddard noted that it was not until April 1983 that Marr and bassist Andy Rourke visited the Rough Trade offices." I guess you're trying to establish that the band visited Rough Trade in April 1983 but this feels like a rather clunky way of doing it. I think the section would read better if you simply stated the time of the visit and included a cite. Done

   The sentence "Years later Morrissey considered it the group's "most special song"". could be worded better. Done

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   In "Background and recording" you claim the original version of "Hand in Glove" was used on The Smiths but the "Composition and lyrics" seems to contradict this in its first sentence.

1. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   I think slightly more is needed to explain "the media furore that accompanied the Smiths song "Reel Around the Fountain""

   As "Reel Around the Fountain" isn't the subject of the article, I don't want to get into unnnecessary detail about it. I rewrote the sentence in a way so it doesn't beg for more detail. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:11, 25 July 2009 (UTC) Done

2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

3. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

4. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   The Sandie Shaw cover needs to be reduced in size to at least 300x300 to meet fair use. Done

5. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Overall a very good article but I'm putting on hold until my concerns are addressed.Cavie78 (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll need the check out the Goddard book from my library again to fix your concerns (particularly the details about the version of the song that appears on The Smiths). Should take a day or two. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Scratch that; won't be able to get to the library until Monday. Also, the fair use issue with the Sandie Shaw image should be fixed. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:06, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I believe I've removed the contradiction. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, have passed as GA. Well done! Cavie78 (talk) 08:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)