Talk:Halloween (The Office)

Costume Meanings?

I'd like others opinions on this. I think the costumes the staffers wear in this episode are symbolic of their characters and would like to add this to the trivia section. Consider the following:

Two-Headed Michael: He fights within himself wheather to be a stern boss and a friendly, laidback boss everybody likes (this can be backed up in "The Carpet" episode where Michael describes his old boss Ed Truck and how he was humorless and by-the-book and how Michael decided - if he ever became boss - to be the exact opposite.)

Kelly as Dorothy': She lives idly on the lives of celebrities, a fantasy.

Creed as a vampire': He's very old.

Devon as a hobo: The most obvious; he becomes unemployed in this episode.

Kevin as a superhero: He's the opposite of every characteristic that defines a superhero, most notably his physique.

Oscar in drag: He's a closeted homosexual

Three Hole Punch Jim (This one is the most trite, bare with me): the three holes are the three holes in Jim's life, namely not being in a loving relationship, a career, and.....I can't consider another.

Stanley and Ryan don't wear costumes. Ryan doesn't want to be part of the office's traditions and Stanley feels work should be about work.

All the others wear generic cat costumes. I can't really point anything to those.

Throw 05:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Although they're interesting, all those are POV theories that are really for a forum or online community rather than an encyclopedia article. (People could argue that Creed is a vampire not because he's old but because he's steals things like vampire's steal blood). The fact that you can't point to the cat costumes shows that these are flawed opinions rather than observational facts. Williamnilly 05:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Halloween (The Office)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Unfortunately, I think this article does not meet the GA criteria. Although it is reasonably well-written, it's simply not broad enough in its coverage to meet 3a, which states that the article must addresses the main aspects of the topic. The article contains only three sections: plot synopsis, production, and reception. The production section is skimpy at best, containing only minor information about the writer and trivia about the closing credits and Devon. Similarly, the reception section is relatively lacking, with only statistics about Nielsen ratings and a few comments from TV reviewers.

I'm certainly not blaming the article writer(s)—this is a decent B-class article—but I simply don't believe there are enough raw sources to flesh out this article enough to be a GA. This is also why I am failing it now, rather than simply putting it on hold, because the issues are with content and a lack of sources, rather than style. Mr. Absurd (talk) 02:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Scenes Canon

In the production section it is stated that Devon's future appearance in Valentines Day is considered non canon, but the main article for the office states that deleted scenes are considered part of the story line. If that's accurate then the disclaimer should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.245.97 (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Deleted scenes aren't considered canon to the story line, but as the main article states, the producers and the actors feel that for them, those scenes are a part of the story. But officially, they are non-canon. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 01:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: TBrandley (talk · contribs) 14:36, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Issues:

• Image: Add File:TheOffice(US)2-05.jpg image to the infobox
• Infobox: Add "running time" to the infobox
• Lede: Link second season
• Lede: Link American to Television in the United States
• Lede: Show runner → Showrunner
• Lede: Unlink United States
• Lede: The episode first aired in the United States on October 18, 2005 on NBC. → The episode first aired on NBC in the United States on October 18, 2005
• Lede: Remove the "guest stars" from the lede. It should be in "production"
  • I added it to production, but kept it in lede, for the sake of continuity with other Office pages.--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• Lede: Add how many viewers on original broadcast and 18-49 rating to lede. It must summarize contents.
• Plot: we see Michael alone at home in front of the television → Michael is alone at home in front of the television
• Production: his second → his second credit
• Production: It goes to details that have nothing to do with the episode on the "production" directing part of the section. For example, he created this, wrote for this. There is a separate article for that.
• Production: Show runner → Showrunner
• Production: "This episode is the only episode to date to have a quote to play over the Deedle-Dee Productions title card in the closing credits". Reference is needed. Honestly, I don't know if it needs to be even needs to be there.
• Production: Deedle-Dee Productions also produces King of the Hill — Nobody cares. Don't mean to be to mean here.
• Production: References for this: During the pre-production for the episode, the cast and crew realized that the Halloween conceit would allow the various cast members to wear costumes, rather than their "usual, realistically plain suits
• Production: Add "guest stars"
• Production: Add the television rating on television in the United States
  • I can't find information on this...--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
    • I have added. --TBrandley 00:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• Production: copy-edit — "Halloween." → "Halloween"
• Cultural references: "Due to the presence of Halloween, many of the employees costumes reflect movie and literary characters. Kelly is dressed as Dorothy Gale, but Michael makes an insensitive remark about Bend It Like Beckham. Dwight is dressed as a Sith, one of the characters in the Star Wars universe capable of using the "dark side" of the Force". — All needs references
  • They all use the TV Guide and Television Without Pity source. I didn't re-add it, because you don't have to double up on the same citation at the end of every sentence, if it's understood that they use the same one--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• Reception: "Halloween" originally aired on NBC in the United States on October 18, 2005 → "Halloween" was originally broadcast on NBC in the United States on October 18, 2005
• Reception: The episode was viewed by 8 million viewers and received a 4.1 rating/10% share among adults between the ages of 18 and 49. This means that it was seen by 4.1% of all 18- to 49-year-olds, and 10% of all 18- to 49-year-olds watching television at the time of the broadcast. The episode was the number one ranked episode among adults, men, and women in the 18–34 demographic, and achieved its highest 18–49 rating since the season's premiere. — References all definelty needed, most likely to ABC Medianet
  • Again, this uses the following Press Release source, as per above... NOTE: I went ahead and did it, since it's numbers.--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• Reception: "Halloween" retained 73 percent of its lead-in "My Name is Earl" audience → "Halloween" retained 73 percent of its lead-in My Name Is Earl audience
• Reception: An encore presentation of the episode, on June 6, 2006, received 2.2 rating/7% share and was viewed by over 4.8 million viewers - Unneeded, don't need to a rerun ratings for the US
• Reception: Add UK airing, with References
  • I can't find this anywhere...--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• Reviews: Need of expanding
  • That's all I can find, but it's been fine with the other Season 2 GAs that have passed--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• Reviews: Add more reviews.
  • Umm... see above.--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• Reviews: Was it well received by television critics, mixed, or negative
• Reviews: Cleanup needed
  • Where exactly?--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
• References: Yahoo → Yahoo! TV
• References: Ref. 4 — publisher to work for TV Guide
• References: Ref. 6 — work to publisher for Fox Broadcasting Company
• References: Ref. 13 — published on October 18, 2008, according to the reference
• External links: Link NBC.com to NBC
• External links: Add The Office Wiki link

On hold. See big boo-boos in article. TBrandley 23:52, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I got most of the issues taken care of. I explained the rationale of some of my actions too.--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I am ready to promote now. TBrandley 00:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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