Talk:Hélio Castroneves/Archive 1

Archive 1

Three Race Finishing Streak

Here's a link:

http://indy500.tjs-labs.com/list-streak.php?streak=3&sort=A

Helio is listed 2nd since his streak came after Big Al's --Mycroft.Holmes 18:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Wilbur Shaw finished 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st in four consecutive Indy 500 races from 1937 to 1940. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.26.67.41 (talk) 17:17, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

References

CART Results

Excellent on the IRL statistics, now we need comparable on his CART stats from before. --Chr.K. 11:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Vital Stats

As part of what makes a race car driver successful is their weight. The article should include Castoneves' weight.

One should also mention the IRL rule for light drivers like Castoneves and Patrick (they have to carry ballast in their cars to make it fair for other racers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.69.88 (talk) 23:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 16:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Prose

Lede

• Castroneves drove full time - did he not drive full time before this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• Following his acquittal of tax evasion and conspiracy in early 2009 - does this fit with WP:CRIME? Considering he wasn't found guilty? Also, if it does, it's a weird thing to include without any more info Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski:, Hélio's trial on those charges resulted in him missing a race in the 2009 season, and his replacement for that race, Will Power, still drives for Team Penske to this day. I believe that fits the "historical event" aspect of WP:CRIME. The article can definitely bridge those events together much better, as it doesn't mention him missing said race until the next section. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 18:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I was specifically talking about it being mentioned in the lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:22, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay. :] GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 18:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

General

• He was educated in the São Paulo school system - seems pretty likely? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
  • There was no further information that I could find, I'm afraid MWright96 (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• Formula Chevrolet Brazil, - bit of an Easteregg link, as Chevrolet doesn't have much to do with this Motorsport. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• F3 - I don't think we've defined this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• Castroneves had his first career top-ten finish - in CART, right? He's had plenty of top 10s in other disciplines. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• "the driver who best typifies Moore's outstanding talent on the track as well as displaying a dynamic personality with the fans, media and the CART community."[43 - who said this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
  • That is the citation of the award :) MWright96 (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• 3⁄4 race distance - do we need the fraction? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• top-nines - why nine? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I wrote that since he did not finish tenth in that time span MWright96 (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
    • I get that, but it reads weird. We might say "top 8", but generally not top 9. Perhaps change to top 10? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• Also 6 1/2 Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
• Can we link speed skating? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I would not want to add too many wikilinks all together per MOS:SEAOFBLUE MWright96 (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
    • What about speed skating Olympian... - the sport itself is sufficiently unknown to warrant a link. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
      • Added wikilink and changed wording of the sentence to avoid a violation of MOS:SEAOFBLUE MWright96 (talk) 20:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
  • @Lee Vilenski: Have made changes were applicable and the replies above explain why some changes were not made. Let me know if there are any more outstanding issues that need addressing MWright96 (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)