Talk:Guy Murchie

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"immortal beings that did not change would be easy prey to environment changes"

Immortal beings cannot be "prey" to anything -- they are, ahem, immortal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.248.95.228 (talk) 19:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Problem solved: The phrase is no longer in the article. Kotabatubara (talk) 19:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

another ref to include

• Murchie published a series of articles from his diary kept on his journey to Irán in 1964. The photos were taken by Murchie. One in the series was at Murchie, Guy (1965). "Máh-Ku and Tabriz- Imprisonment and Martyrdom". Bahá'í News (424): 4–6. Retrieved 2010-06-12. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) Smkolins (talk) 10:47, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

• • @smkolins: You seem to indicate that Murchie's visit to Iran was in 1964. The March 1965 article clearly indicates that Guy Murchie took his trip to Iran in 1964. The June 1965 and September 1967 articles say the same thing. His autobiography backs this up. Where precisely is the "editorial comment at the end of the first article" that indicates Murchie's trip was ten years earlier? Kaweah (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:20, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

• • Also checked the editorial headers for the articles in Sep '65, Apr '66, May '66, and July '66. Still nothing about 1954. They all say 1964. If it's hard to read, look at the original PDF. Kaweah (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:58, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

No I do NOT say he visited in 1964. I say he visited in 1954. Look at http://bahai-news.info/viewer.erb?vol=06&page=116 top left above "Springtime in Shiraz". I admit the number is a bit fuzzy but it has always seemed to me to be comfortably 5 vs 6. I apologize if I got it wrong but I wasn't just making it up. Smkolins (talk) 22:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

• • Clarification: you're saying 1954 now, but your comment above (on this talk thread) says 1964. That must have predated your present opinion on the matter. I recommend a quick look at the PDF (offline). Kaweah (talk) 15:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
    • Yeah I typoed in the the original comment 1964 but tried to comment subsequently. Sorry this is all a mess. I accept that your work has clarified that it was later. As for the error that made content disappear I've seen that before. It's an issue where an automatic bot signs unsigned entries and my browser sometimes reads trailing dashes as a united hyphen. (sigh) So much to do and all these little things cropping up. As far as 1954 vs 64 goes I accept that 1964 is correct. I don't (yet) have access to his autobiography. There are some clarifications we can get to on some other points later but for I think the whole body of the article is getting way better. Smkolins (talk) 22:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Human Hailstones

This is the same Guy Murchie who survived the whole glider pilots/human hailstones ordeal in the Rhone Mountains in Germany, right? Shouldn't there be at least a mention that he was the only person to survive that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.79.168.215 (talk) 05:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

• I believe this is based on a story told by Murchie and somehow along the line altered--even in the press--to feature Murchie. He tells the story of five German glider pilots, 4 of which died. The survivor, Murchie writes, "lost three fingers and most of his face ..." (Murchie, "Song of the Sky," page 206) Kaweah (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:06, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Very incomplete bio

Why is there not one word about Murchie's reputation as an aviator/navigator? The article dwells on his philosophical musings and ignores the aviation aspect. His book Song of the Sky is justifiably regarded as a classic but the naive reader would never know it from this piece. This kind of thing (truncated articles that leave out huge, relevant sections) is the worst aspect of Wikipedia and is why I won't let my students cite it.

14:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

too bad you didn't see fit to do the work of additing to it. Regardless here's an improvement.--Smkolins (talk) 04:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

more sources

just a note many newspaper and other sources being gathered for a major re-write of the article. Stay tuned.--Smkolins (talk) 13:09, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Interraliation

What does it mean? It seems to be a hapax legomenon of the Internets. 5.38.175.190 (talk) 18:56, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Problem solved: The word is no longer in the article (replaced by Murchie's word "interrelatedness"). Kotabatubara (talk) 19:57, 23 August 2015 (UTC)