Talk:Guru Nanak

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 12:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Guru Nanak Dev → Guru Nanak – WP:COMMONNAME. BBCBritannica, [1] "Guru Nanak" 11,500,000 his v/s [2] 3,290,000 hits. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 10:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• Support per nom. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:39, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move 15 June 2022

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 03:54, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

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Guru Nanak → Nanak – The Sanskrit religious title Guru is primarily used for Nanak by Sikhs, not all people commonly refer to him by using the prefix 'Guru'. Only Sikhs consider Nanak to be a 'guru', similarly Muslims consider Muhammad to be a Prophet, but we don't use 'Prophet Muhammad' here on Wikipedia, we simply have Muhammad. Christians consider Jesus to be a Christ, though we do not have Jesus Christ, we simply have Jesus. In the same manner, Sikhs consider Nanak to be Guru, but we should simply have Nanak, instead of Guru Nanak. A much more convincing argument would be WP:COMMONNAME. The Google Ngram results largely favor 'Nanak' over 'Guru Nanak'. The much-more reliable Google Scholars shows 48,800 results for Guru Nanak whereas a much larger 66,900 results for Nanak. ShabberMojtaba ((talk), 22:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC) Sockstrike ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose based on WP:COMMONNAME and the Google Scholars hits above. Since the search term for 'Nanak' did not exclude 'Guru Nanak', that indicates 48,800 results for "Guru Nanak" and 18,100 for "Nanak" not preceded by "Guru". —C.Fred (talk)

• Oppose based on WP:COMMONNAME. The policy cites Mahatma Gandhi as a good example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NebulaOblongata (talk • contribs) 07:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. As C.Fred noted, vast majority of "Nanak" results include "Guru Nanak" as well. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:27, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Google Scholar only has 7,930 results for Nanak vs 48,800 results for Guru Nanak. That's a sixfold difference. — kashmīrī ^TALK 12:32, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

  Also, most of the "Nanak" -Guru results are unrelated to this topic, so the actual difference could be many times more. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• oppose move, rarely do you hear or Nanak, Guru Nanak is WP:COMMONNAME as shown above by many. Also similar arguments were used on Gautama Buddha a few days ago, do see that discussion as well. Sajaypal007 (talk) 15:43, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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Sister

Sister name Bibi Nanki ji 202.52.36.51 (talk) 02:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2022

I request to add the transcription of Guru Nanak's name in the native Gurmukhi (ਨਾਨਕ) and Shahmukhi (نانک) scripts of the Punjabi-language. There is currently only the transcription of his name in the Latin script. ThethPunjabi (talk) 19:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

It looks like the Gurmukhi is used in other gurus' articles. @ThethPunjabi: What's your source for the spelling in Gurmukhi, so we can verify it? —C.Fred (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

The spelling of Nanak's name in Gurmukhi as ਨਾਨਕ can be confirmed with the Online Sikh Library: https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95/

This websites draws upon the Mahan Kosh and other Sikh/Punjabi dictionaries as its sources. ThethPunjabi (talk) 01:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: I have added the Gurmukhi only, similar to other gurus' articles. —C.Fred (talk) 01:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2022

Please Put (“Shri Guru” (full name of Guru’s) and “Ji” in the last) and refer them with “They/them” instead of “He/She”. As they (Guru’s) are very respected in Sikh history and it can damage a lot of Sikh’s feelings by not paying them (Gurur’s) request. 2605:8D80:403:1BC1:BCF2:5E2B:4EC7:4244 (talk) 03:29, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: MOS:HONORIFIC is clear that we do not add "Shri", "Dev Ji", or the like to names. As for the gender of/pronouns for Guru Nanak, you would need to provide evidence that a preponderance of reliable sources treat the guru as plural or use the singular they for Guru Nanak. —C.Fred (talk) 03:40, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2022

Date of birth is wrong guru Nanak dev ji was born on purnima of katik month 1469 which should be in end of October or starting of November 1469 it Can’t be 15th April cause it’s biasakh month. Please search it and change it. You are spreading wrong info about the First guru of Sikh ! 117.243.196.216 (talk) 02:46, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. There are two sources cited in the article for the 15 April date. —C.Fred (talk) 02:52, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Wrong “birth month” information added

Date of birth is wrong guru Nanak dev ji was born on Katak di puneya,1469 which should be in end of October or starting of November. it Can’t be 15th April cause it’s biasakh month. Please search it and change it. You are spreading wrong info about the First guru of Sikh ! 117.243.196.216 (talk) 02:46, 15 November 2022 (UTC) 2601:646:8801:7030:CDE5:B508:EB5F:88D6 (talk) 17:00, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Wrong birth month added

Katak di Pooranmashi use to come in November months not in April month. Make it correct. 2601:646:8801:7030:CDE5:B508:EB5F:88D6 (talk) 17:02, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi,

Can you provide a verifiable source for your claim towards the incorrect birth month? AnyBurro9312 (talk) 17:44, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

WRONG NAME

It has to be GAYANI NO. 1 INSTED OG FIRST GURU GURU NANAK DEV. Humble consider this request so we can take our revenge in this era of materialistic war. This is a strongly influenced positively motivated forced article for readers. Gayani no. 1 is all very much people needs to know at time. 103.41.25.231 (talk) 20:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Guru Nanak Dev Ji Birth Date Correction

Guru Nanak Dev Ji was born in November not April. Mithi Dundh jag chanan hoa. Kindly give correct information. 2001:D08:2062:3132:D911:7D60:236:1CFD (talk) 07:15, 10 March 2024 (UTC)