Talk:Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will get on with this one fully today! --K. Peake 07:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Should the amount of points be listed in the infobox?

• Only if they qualified per documentation. Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

• Maybe add "and performed by Argo." at the end of the first sentence instead, making the second only a mention of the selection for the 2016 contest in Stockholm?
• "on 9 February 2016, while their song" → "in February 2016, a month before their song" removing the 10 March part from the end of the sentence
• "a music video for the song" → "a music video for "Utopian Land"" with the wikilink
• Pipe introduction of semi-finals to Semi-finals in the Eurovision Song Contest per MOS:LINK2SECT

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Background

• "thirty-six times since" → "36 times since" per MOS:NUM
• You need to add the appropriate source(s) for the sentences after the first one here
• "The nation has won" → "To this point, the nation had won"
• "for the 2004, Greece has managed" → "for the 2004 contest, Greece managed"
• "was twentieth place," → "was 20th place,"
• "Greece placed nineteenth in" → "Greece placed 19th in"
• ERT having been in charge of their entry from 1974 to 2013 is not sourced
• "on 11 June 2015." → "on 11 June."
• "The new ERT then confirmed their intentions" → "ERT then confirmed Greece's intentions" to be less monotonous
• "at the 2016 Eurovision Song Contest" → "at the Eurovision Song Contest 2016" with the wikilink
• Most of the last para is not backed up by the Wiwibloggs source
• "while the last time the nation selected" → "while the last time Greece chose"
• "an internal selection (both artist and song)" → "an internal selection of both artist and song"

 Done, but with some rewording so please feel free to recheck this section. Grk1011 (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Before Eurovision

Internal selection

• "the Greek broadcaster Hellenic Broadcasting Corporation (ERT) announced that they would be selecting their act" → "ERT announced that they would be selecting Greece's act"
• "of the announcement, including Christina Lachana," → "of the announcement: Christina Lachana," since all of them are listed here
• "The song was presented via" → "It was presented via"
• Pipe ERA 1 to First Programme (ERT)
• Pipe ERA 2 to ERT3
• Pipe House of Radio to Broadcasting House (Athens)
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on Athens
• Pipe refugee crisis to 2015 European migrant crisis

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Promotion

• "on 10 March" → "on 10 March 2016"
• "they were joined by" → "they were joined by the likes of"
• Remove wikilink on RiskyKidd

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

At Eurovision

• Img looks good!
• Remove wikilink on ERT1
• Pipe ERT HD to ERT Sports
• ERT World and ERA 2 are not sourced

• Removed ERT World, but ERA 2 is mentioned in the sentence by its full name Δεύτερο Πρόγραμμα της Ελληνικής Ραδιοφωνίας (second program). Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

• Remove pipe on ERA 2

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Performances

• Img looks good!
• "on 2 and 6 May," →"on 2 and 6 May 2016,"
• Not all of the outfits info is sourced
• Pipe LED to Light-emitting diode, but this part is unsourced
• Where are the respective 22 points sourced?
• "and the first time that Greece was" → "and the first time that the nation was"
• "were not surprised by the result, since" → "were not surprised since"

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Voting

• The related part and jury members are not sourced
• "to Cyprus (televote) and Russia (jury)" → "to Cyprus through televote and Russia through jury"

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Points awarded to Greece

• Good

Points awarded by Greece

• Good

Detailed voting results

• The jury are not sourced

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

References

• Copyvio score looks pretty good at 32.4%!
• Remove independent.co.uk from ref 3, citing The Independent as work/website
• Remove reuters.com from ref 4
• Wikilink BBC News on ref 5
• WP:OVERLINK of Wiwibloggs on refs 9, 11 and 21
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues and WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on ref 16
• Pipe OGAE Greece to OGAE on ref 17
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues and WP:OVERLINK of Wiwibloggs on ref 34

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

• You missed the overlink of European Broadcasting Union. --K. Peake 06:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; my main problem is the original research level. --K. Peake 08:54, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
  • @Kyle Peake: Thank you for another in depth review! I have made all of the changes you've requested, with a couple comments above. Please let me know if you catch anything else. Grk1011 (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

• Grk1011 You still haven't removed the overlink of European Broadcasting Union that I mentioned twice. --K. Peake 07:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake That's not a GA requirement or a requirement at all per WP:OVERLINK: Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article; e.g. |work=The Guardian. Grk1011 (talk) 13:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

• Grk1011 Why are you inconsistent with wikilinking them in this article if this is the case? Also, ref 3 needs a publisher. --K. Peake 09:16, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake Should be all set now. Mistakes can happen when you're requested to fix things that aren't wrong; they don't stand out like actual errors. Thanks again for such a detailed review! Grk1011 (talk) 12:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

• Grk1011 It seems strange that this is a persisting issue, but sources like European Broadcasting Union and WiwiBloggs aren't consistently wikilinked; the overlinking does not matter, rather that it seems to be done randomly... --K. Peake 21:32, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake No, I typically link all of them consistently. Grk1011 (talk) 23:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

• Grk1011 This is not fully consistent though, like refs 25, 29, 30 and 36 not wikilinking the EBU article for instance. --K. Peake 07:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake Did a final read through. Looks consistent now. Let me know if anything remains. Thanks. Grk1011 (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, don't see any remaining issues! --K. Peake 09:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)