Talk:Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist

It wasn't a robbery

Robbery requires use of force or threat of force. If I threaten you with a knife to force you to give me your valuable watch, that's robbery. But, if I break into your house when you are not home, and steal the watch, that's burglary. If I tie you up to restrain you while I break into your safe and steal your valuable documents, that again is robbery. The victims in this maple syrup heist were not forced, were not threatened, and didn't even know it was happening, so not robbery. SlowJog (talk) 17:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough, theft is a better definition. I'm happy with this. DallasFletcher 19:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Name

Why is the name of this article a proper title? WP:NCE prefers descriptive titles except in the minority of cases in which there's an "established, common name" for an event.

Under that policy, I'd say this article should move to Quebec maple syrup heist or 2011–12 Quebec maple syrup heist.

What are people's thoughts? Fedbrw (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

As I didn't immediately see a source that supports the current name of the article (i.e. who first called it the "Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist", and was that name ever commonly accepted?), I'd support renaming it...probably without the year as it seems like an unnecessary disambiguation, unless there are other notable Quebec maple syrup heists... DonIago (talk) 03:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Febdrw, I'm the original author of this article and the name was only supposed to be a working title. I'm actually surprised that it lasted this long. Can you take ownership and change it? DallasFletcher (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Also @Donlago, up to you if you want to change the title. I think it's a fun name but definitely not in line with WP:NCE. DallasFletcher (talk) 21:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion at this point, beyond that we should use a name that's supported by sources. DonIago (talk) 01:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Still the largest in Canadian history

Article claimed that, adjusting for inflation, this was the largest theft until it was surpassed by the April 2023 Toronto Pearson International Airport heist.

In fact, the police have said that the airport thieves took "just under C$20M" in gold and "just under C$2M" worth of US dollars. That's less than C$22M, in 2023 Canadian Dollars.

The syrup was worth C$18.7M in "2011 or 2012".

Using the Bank of Canada's online inflation adjustor (https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/related/inflation-calculator/), we see:

• C$18.7M in 2011 would be worth C$24.32M in 2023
• C$18.7M in 2012 would be worth C$23.86M in 2023

Regardless of whether we use 2011 or 2012 as the baseline, on an inflation-adjusted basis the Syrup Heist is more valuable than the Airport Heist. 173.95.167.220 (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)