Talk:Great Britain at the 2012 Summer Olympics

Dates

Shouldn't the article say when in 2012? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.179.251 (talk) 19:59, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Kerri-Anne Payne

Kerri-Anne Payne has officially qualified for the 10km open water swimming now. should this be included? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/jul/19/keri-anne-payne-gold-olympics — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurt O'Sys (talk • contribs) 13:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Athletics

I removed the numbers in brackets in the athletics section of the page. In my opinion they were misleading, since they exceeded the maximum number of quota places available in many cases. Other X at the 2012 Summer Olympics-pages don't include such numbers either. --Phileasson (talk) 21:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Link

You can find athletes' pb's in 2012 here. 86.163.74.143 (talk) 08:40, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit requests

The following moved from Template talk:Olympics to-do where it was incorrectly asked: --Paul_012 (talk) 16:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Great Britain at the 2012 summer olympics - section 16 JUDO - The correct name of the male juduoka competing at 81kg is Euan Burton. I regret that I am unable to correct this error myself 149.254.234.246 (talk) 04:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Great Britain at the 2012 summer olympics - section 21 SWIMMING - Elizabeth Simmonds has been selected to compete in the women's 100m backstroke (although she is recorded her event is not) I regret that I am unable to make this amendment myself 149.254.187.210 (talk) 04:48, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Great Britain at the 2012 summer olympics - section 21 SWIMMING - On 27 June the British Olympic Association announced the following additions to their relay teams: Grant Turner (4x100m relay - men); David Carry (4x200m relay - men); Caitlin McClatchey (4x100m relay - women); Rebecca Adlington (4x200m relay - women). However, Lucy Ellis (4x200m relay) was not selected and should be deleted. I regret that I am unable to make these amendments myself. 149.254.180.247 (talk) 05:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Great Britain at the 2012 summer olympics - section 2 ATHLETICS - Shouldn't the list of Athletes be ordered in terms of event and not in alphabetical order as It looks confusing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.150.7 (talk) 21:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Redirect page for "United Kingdom at the 2012 Summer Olympics"

Though United Kingdom is known as "Great Britain" at the Olympics, due to the imposition by some body, it still remains United Kingdom. "United Kingdom at the 2012 Summer Olympics" currently is not redirected, can we have this done? Hope IOC has no issues doing this on Wiki ;-) Jobin^{Fire me here} 08:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done - Basement12 (T.C) 08:57, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Just take objection to imposition by some body, in 1905 when the National Olympic Committee was recogonised by the IOC the common name for the UK was "Great Britain", over time the name has been used as a geographical representation. So no imposition by some outside body as it was the common name and to some degree even today Great Britain is a synonym for the United Kingdom. MilborneOne (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Well it's confusing to me. Great Britain is a term that dates from the early 18th Century to refer to the the union of the kingdoms of England and Scotland, geographically the island of Britain (Wales having been absorbed by the English). United Kingdom as a term, in contrast, dates from the 19th Century to refer to the union of Britain and Ireland, but after the Irish War of Independence it was changed to its present iteration, "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". The use of Great Britain by the Olympic team made me think that perhaps Northern Ireland was competing on its own or as part of united team with the Irish Republic. Apparently that is not the case. I note that N. Irish golfers compete under their own nationality and flag. Thus I think the term United Kingdom is not being used for security and political reasons to avoid not inflaming passions with the Irish.

"Great Britain" has never been a synonym for the United Kingdom, as claimed above. "Britain" is indeed a synonym, but not "Great Britain". The official name for the team is actually "Great Britain and Northern Ireland", but it's invariably shortened. I don't think there's any security and political reasons here, incidentally. The term "United Kingdom" is not a politically incorrect one. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually the full team name is just "Great Britain", it's not a shortened version, there was one Games where the team competed under the name "Great Britain and Ireland" but other than that it's been always been Great Britain despite Northern Irish athletes forming part of the team. It's one of the strange quirks of the IOC that the name has stuck and not been changed - Basement12 (T.C) 18:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The first line of the above post should be treated as unsubstantiated personal opinion, unless or until Basement12 gets around to answering this post. FerrerFour (talk) 01:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Again, official website of the International Olympic Committee [1] or the official London 2012 website [2] or any of the multitude of official Olympic reports released after every Games [3] (and don't claim they just use a shortened version they use the full names of every other team) - Basement12 (T.C) 06:24, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

As I suspected, the issue must be your comprehension of English. I am asking for a source that explicitly states that it's the offical name (or some document that states it's a list of official names, that would do too), and to you that apparently sounds like simply a request for official examples of it being used. I actually have a source from the BOA that explicitly says it's not what you say it is, all you have is a whopping great piece of improper synthesis - 'the IOC website uses FYRM, so therefore it must be a list of official names'. It's garbage. FerrerFour (talk) 12:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

As you've been told the BOA have very little ability to dictate the team name, and for that matter you source is not clear cut as it merely says "Team GB is...", the IOC certainly don't recognise the BOA's brand name as being an Olympic team. The IOC determines team names (for example this time around Kuwait were very nearly forced to compete under the Olympic flag as part of the Independent athletes team) and all sources from the IOC use Great Britain. As for you list of NOCs the IOC source listed above is currently the link found from the list of Olympic Committees on their website, the European Olympic Committees association website has a similar list. Every Official Report also contains a list of the competing nations. I'd hope those would satisfy you but if not the other link you may want to have a peak at is WP:CIVIL - Basement12 (T.C) 21:40, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Earlier you had the audacity to call me disruptive. Well, by my count, this is getting close to the 5th time you've deliberately ignored a direct request for an actual source that states that the official name of the team is Great Britain. Those links don't satisfy me because all they represent is you trying to do the same thing, but in different ways. Worse, we're now treated to yet more original research, based on some irrelevant info about Kuwait, offered up just like the FYRM information by you, as some kind of substitute for an actual source for the claims you want to make. You seem completely unaware of the whole concept of original research frankly, that's all I can conclude by now. To illustrate just how silly your arguments are, you've just offered up a page from the IOC which lists entries under the heading National Olympic Committees. Now, using nothing but the logic you've employed so far over the name issue, this represents an IOC source for the official names of NOCs. So, according to your logic, we can disregard all other sources now and rename the British Olympic Association article as just 'Great Britain', or to suit Wikipedia rules on naming, Great Britain (National Olympic Committee), no matter how odd that is when the BOA themselves make it quite plain that they're name is the British Olympic Association, "company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 60 Charlotte Street London W1T 2NU". That very same address is the one on the IOC page under the NOC they call 'Great Britain' according to their 'source', so using your ideas about IOC primacy over all naming issues related to the games, that's the source that takes precedence right? No, it would be wrong, obviously. FerrerFour (talk) 00:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

See also Talk:Great Britain at the Olympics for prior discussion, including move requests. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 01:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Edits by FerrerFour

Just for a change we have an editor trying to insist that the Great Britain team is in fact called "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" and making changes that imply this. I can't make further changes due to 3:RR but for a selection of previous discussions on this subject try here, here, here, here, here and here. For sources that confirm the name is simply "Great Britain" we have the International Olympic Committee [4], the official London 2012 website [5]and the official Olympic reports for past Games [6]. There are also news articles ([7], [8]) with NI polititians calling for a change in the name - Basement12 (T.C) 15:24, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't much care what the team name is, more than I do about you dumping a whole bunch of other improvement I made on the article, just becuse you disagree on this one issue of the name. But to address the name issue, let's get one thing straight, Great Britain is the common short form name. Nobody disagrees with that. But it's ludicrous to say that that IOC source is a source for the official name. It's merely a page for the team, and just like the London 2012 site, is fully entitled to use a common short form, much like the United Kingdom is almost never referred to by its official long form name of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland anywhere except in legalese. If I were to use a page like this to claim on the UK page that the offical name of the country was just United Kingdom, I would expect to be laughed at, because it's not a source for the claim at all, just evidence of the use of a common short form. Similarly, nowhere on the IOC site or the London 2012 site does it say that Great Britain is the official name, or more importantly that it's not Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The BOA seem quite clear on what the name is, addressing it directly in their FAQ: What is Team GB? Team GB is the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team. As we already know, that's not accurate if it's merely supposedly a description of where the athletes come from, considring the team also represents Jersey, Gibraltar, etc, so I think their meaning is quite clear, the full and formal name of the 'Olympic Team' of the BOA is Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The news sources are irrelevant, not only do they also not say anything to support your claim that the official name is just Great Britain, they are actually about their objections to the Team GB brand. FerrerFour (talk) 15:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

And just to illustrate how stupid Basement21 is, one of the news sources he's claiming shows the official name is just Great Britain, contains the statement The official name of the UK's Olympic team is 'Team Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. Now, I don't personally take that as cast iron proof, given it's just a newspaper, but on the issue of what the "official name" is, it's a better source than simply random idiots like Basement21 pointing at pages on the IOC and London 2012 sites that simply use Great Britain in places where using the longer form would take up most of the page, while singularly failing to provide any evidence that they're provided there as the definitive "official name" (apart from the rather idiotic point that the IOC runs the games. Duh, like I didn't know that!). FerrerFour (talk) 16:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The IOC website does not use short names (see FYR Macedonia). The name is actually part of a long running argument over Northern Ireland (unsurprisingly). When the Irish Olympic Association was formed they were given responsibility for the whole of the Island of Ireland by the IOC.[9] Given that the IOC run the Olympic games it doesn't matter how much GB refers to itself as GB and NI. Their name when they attend the games is the one that the IOC gives them and if you watched the opening ceremony will have seen the team come in behind a sign saying Great Britain. Eckerslike (talk) 07:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

In a word: Bullshit. The name of the team is not defined by the IOC any more than the name of the UK is defined by the United Nations. The BOA FAQ is the only definitive reference anyone has provided here as a reliable source for what the proper name of the team is. Wikipedia can by all means use the IOC name in all relevant articles, for consistency, and the fact it's the common short form name, but to claim that Great Britain is the proper name because the IOC uses it, is just garbage. And that's before we point out that this opinion is based on nothing but conjecture and original research, which is of course not permitted on Wikipedia. You, like the idiot before you, seem unable to provide a single reference that states what even the IOC think is Team GB's official name. And as seems to be a theme in this discussion, the news link provided says jack shit about what the name is, and it doesn't even support the claim that the OCI are still responsible for all Irish athletes (which they clearly never were anyway even before the BOA's change). Still, you keep removing all the references supporting GBNI from GB articles if it makes you feel better, we can only speculate on your motives for this vandalism. FerrerFour (talk) 12:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

As someone who keeps saying that Great Britain was the common name for the UK I dont actually see a problem with the use of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the introduction. I dont see a need to change the article title but elsewhere it is not really an issue and explains clearly to the reader who may not know all the background of the different names used. MilborneOne (talk) 20:47, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

There was previously wording in the lede (as there is in older Great Britain at the XXXX Olympic articles) that explained that despite the name the team respresented GB&NI plus the Crown Dependencies etc which I've now restored (there is also already a similar explaination under the "team" heading - Basement12 (T.C) 22:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

It's so hilarious that the only place that that information is sourceable from is the BOA - you know, the organsation that you want to ignore in preference to the IOC over basic facts like what they call their own team. Good luck squaring that circle of illogic everybody, you'll get no sensible explanation for it from this guy FerrerFour (talk) 23:28, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Target Reached

Can we have a separate column saying whether the target has been reached or not? If the target is 0-1 the answer will always be 'yes' of course, maybe if its higher you could put 'surpassed'. If all the medal opportunities have passed with a bad result then 'no', otherwise 'not yet'? 92.20.116.43 (talk) 20:23, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Having the numbers is all we really need, having a yes or no is really adding weight to what is a goal and not part of the actual olympic competition. MilborneOne (talk) 20:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

But still somebody has added it and filled it with ugly TBA whatever that means. MilborneOne (talk) 18:44, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

That is ugly, not keen on it at all. Also it is probably jumping the gun, since UK Sport hasn't announced whether they feel the targets have been reached. Does it not constitute WP:OR as there is no cite for it? G-13114 (talk) 19:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

There are citations for the targets so if that number is reached the target is met is it not? I have no doubt the press will pick up on various sports under/over achieving soon enough anyway. The final column might be ugly but I do think the reader will want indication of whether targets are met, we had a similar column for Great Britain at the 2008 Summer Olympics (and it made it through a pretty thorough GA review there). My concern with the table is the ridiculous width, I'd suggest we remove the Beijing column entirely as we can't show that each sport's target was based on 2008 (the overall total may be but that's covered in the prose) - Basement12 (T.C) 19:21, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Gymanstics Target Medals

Gymnastics section of the Medals target table denotes Britain cannot win anymore medals. However thr Rhythmic Gymanstics team are yet to compete and so may win medals in this section. Unless we are assuming that this section relates to artistic gymanstics only, should it be reistated that Team GB are in line for more gymanstic medals. If this relates to Artistic gymanstics only, should it be recognised as so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.43.56 (talk) 00:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- Jonel (Speak to me) 00:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Country title

The London 2012 website continues to refer to "Great Britain". The BBC website also did so for the first few days of the Games but, interestingly, has now changed the listing in its medal table to read "Great Britain and N. Ireland"- see http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/medals/countriesHeadhitter (talk) 08:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Please let's not start this again... - Basement12 (T.C) 09:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Headhitter, what Basement12 meant to say was, the IOC are the only arbiter of what the official name of Team GB is. It doesn't matter what the BBC call it, or even the BOA who actually organise the team, he has a link to page from the IOC website which.....get this....uses the name in a list of countries (or is it NOCs, or teams, he's never quite clarified that bit). In his mind, this is irrefutable evidence supporting the Wikipedia propogated assertion that "the official name of Team GB is Great Britain", despite the BOA actually stating in black and white on their own website FAQ that "Team GB is the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team". As with many things on Wikipedia, if readers want the truth, they have to go elsewhere. If you can't find a link to the BOA website, it's listed on the IOC website as the go to place for information about Team GB (too hilarious for words that bit). FerrerFour (talk) 01:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

This is easy to solve use Team GB following WP:common name. Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:26, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Team GB is the last thing we should be using. It's a brand name created to sell merchandise. For the record FerrerFour, not that I have any wish to get you ranting again, here's a source for you from the Official London 2012 website that if you scroll down to the team name uses the wording I think you were looking for previously [10] - Basement12 (T.C) 09:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I was simply stating facts, not seeking to restart discussion about what the Wikipedia article should be called, as I know this has already been debated extensively. A presenter on the BBC News Channel also referred to "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" on air about an hour ago. Perhaps the BBC's continued reference to "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" merits mention in the article itself? Headhitter (talk) 09:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations Basement12, it only took you nearly two weeks, but you finally found a source that supports your repeatedly unsupported claim that the official team name of the team is Great Britain. We shall gloss over the fact that all that time you had been insisting that this source would be from the IOC, yet this one is from LOCOG. We'll also gloss over the fact that there's reasonable doubt as to whether LOCOG are a more or less authorative source for the official name of the team than the BOA. I'm satisfied with the present situation, where all reliable sources are reflected, which is what Wikipedia is supposed to do. You appear completely content with not understanding this concept, trapped in some bizarre mindset where Wikipedia is just an extension of the IOC and all other sources are to be ignored, so I shall leave you to your blissfull ignorance unless you start messing with these articles again as you did in the past, removing reliable sources just because they contradicted your opinion, and changing wording of articles based on nothing but your own brand of original research. FerrerFour (talk) 13:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Problem with the target table

The key says that the target is "N/A" if the minimum number of medals aimed for is zero, and in sports where Britain has achieved zero, including those where there's a range aimed, with zero being the minimum (e.g. archery), it has been noted as such. But in sports such as tennis and shooting, where Britain has won medals, a tick has been placed to show we've met the target, despite the minimum also being zero. Is there a bias at place here to give Britain a tick when it achieves more than zero and simply deny the applicability of a success/failure criteria where it has failed? Yohan euan o4 (talk) 21:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Another medal table?

Any room for this table on this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Debnigo#Team_GB_Medal_Table Debnigo (talk) 22:33, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I find that harder to follow to be honest. And it is in a totally different format to the ones used on all the other Olympic country pages, and all the historic ones. I don't think we could use a completely different format here without doing so at all the other pages. See what others think. G-13114 (talk) 22:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

In a word.... no - Basement12 (T.C) 09:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought this issue had been dealt with due to the target placings, in the case were no medals were expected? Obviously a target of zero medals is meaningless and a placing is more useful. BTW I prefer the performance relative to target which was originally inserted than the single and double ticks, it far more clearly shows events were we have either equalled, underperformed or overperformed. --wiki 17:22, 18 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andromedean (talk • contribs)

Poor title choice

The title of this article is incorrect. Great Britian does not have a team at the 2012 Summer Olympics. As already mentioned, there is no 'Great Britain team' - there is a United Kingdom team, which is known as 'Team GB'. This article's title should therfore read 'Team GB at the 2012 Summer Olympics' or 'The United Kingdom at the 2012 Summer Olympics'. Obscurasky (talk) 21:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Officially the NOC is called Great Britain, "Team GB" is how the NOC chooses to label itself publicly. The title is correct as per how the IOC officially references the Great Britian NOC. (Natt39 (talk) 21:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC))

What does NOC stand for? Obscurasky (talk) 22:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

National Olympic Committee (Natt39 (talk) 22:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC))

This was discussed at Talk:Great Britain at the Olympics. G-13114 (talk) 22:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Two points; Firstly, the title of this page refers specifically to the nation which is represented at the 2012 Summer Olympics by Team GB, not the 'label' attributed to it by our NOC. Secondly, I don't think your point, above, is even correct. Can you provide a reference to support the claim that our NOC (the BOA) is officially called 'Great Britain' and that the IOC] officially references the Great Britain NOC? Obscurasky (talk) 22:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

http://www.olympic.org/great-britain Anywho this article refers to the performance of the NOC that is representing the British athletes at the games. Please see the talk page cited by G-13114 as to why the article is named this way. You will also note that we march into the stadium under the name Great Britain not TeamGB (Natt39 (talk) 22:58, 10 August 2012 (UTC))

Thank you for the link - which was surprising. What about my point that the title of this page refers to the name of the nation represented by Team GB, not the NOC? Obscurasky (talk) 23:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Calling it 'The United Kingdom at the 2012 Summer Olympics' would be incorrect, Because, as the team section of the article notes, competitors from the Crown Dependencies (such as the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands) and British Overseas Territories (such as the Falkland Islands) which are not part of the UK are eligible for the team as well. So the strictly geographically correct name would be 'The United Kingdom plus Crown Dependencies and British Overseas Territories at the 2012 Summer Olympics'! Probably explains why they stick with the simple 'Great Britain'! G-13114 (talk) 23:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. As I've said above the UK is represented by the GB NOC known as Great Britain and this article is about that representation rather than the country itself. Its that way because in 1896 when they were asked to submit a name the Great Britain was the most common one used rather than The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland as it then was. (Natt39 (talk) 23:41, 10 August 2012 (UTC))

That should actually be The United Kingdom plus Crown Dependencies and British Overseas Territories (except Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands and the Cayman Islands which compete separately) at the 2012 Summer Olympics. Alternatively, we could just go with the name actually used by the BOA. - Chrism would like to hear from you 10:18, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Actually I disagree, but unless there's concensus I'm not going to push it. The title of this article has nothing to do with BOA terminology; it refers to the nation which was represented by Team GB; ie the United Kingdom. The above post by Chrism may be technically correct, but it's a well established concept that the term 'United Kingdom' refers to all 4 constituent countries and overseas territories, etc. Whatever terminology the BOA or IOC choose to adopt, it is certainly not the case that the same applies to the term 'Great Britain'. Obscurasky (talk) 14:01, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Medals By Sport & Medals By Date Tables

Hi there, I have just noticed on the United States page that on the Medals By Sport & Medals By Date Tables that they have put in a lovely gold, sliver and bronze background into their tables and I was wondering if it was possible if the same could be done onto the "Great Britain" medals by sport and date tables as I think it would stand out much better. I would do it myself but whoever did the tables for the Great Britain page has done it differently so its not as easy to do, any thoughts on this? Thank You (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 15:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC))

I don't know who made the original table. But I'm not bothered either way. I would wait until the games are over before any changes are made, cause the coloured table is more complicated to edit. G-13114 (talk) 20:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Y Done. G-13114 (talk) 21:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I have a feeling once this goes to a wider discussion the coloured tables will need to be removed; as a general rule colour shouldn't be used just to make things look pretty - Basement12 (T.C) 21:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Can't see why, WP:COLOUR states that you shouldn't use colour on it's own to convey information, because some people are colour-blind. But it doesn't prohibit it's use. The colour on these tables is being used in accordance with those guidelines. G-13114 (talk) 20:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Well done!

I would like to say well done to everyone who's worked to keep this up to date. I think you all deserve medals. Good work! G-13114 (talk) 18:09, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Medal targets

The key for the medal targets is missing the explanation (key) for what the dash means. It was there at one time, but it is now gone. At one time, the key contained the following information, explaining what the dash symbol meant: " – Minimum target of no medals set, and none achieved". Since the dash is still used in the final column of the chart, the dash should also be explained in the key (just as the other symbols are). Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:56, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Made sense as the - is still used. (Natt39 (talk) 01:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC))

Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Medal Targets Part 2

Can we get a consensus on whether or not sports with a minimum target of 0 and were awarded no medals have or haven't met their targets? Its changed at least twice since this morning. I'd argue that they have because if you're set 0 and get 0 you've done your job. What does everyone else think? (Natt39 (talk) 18:30, 13 August 2012 (UTC))

It seems the targets weren't as simple as just a number of medals. The source I added this morning [11] confirms that there were actually top 8/16 etc targets for some of the sports with 0-1 medals. Getting this info into the table without making it look awful is a task I haven't gotten around to yet - Basement12 (T.C) 21:56, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

OR?

I think recent additions to the Medal_and_Performance_targets section appears to contain a lot of original research, stuff which isn't included in the references given. But i'm not sure how to sort it out. G-13114 (talk) 20:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC).

Which specific parts are you referring to, then I may be able to sort it out? The medal estimates from the various sources should be defined in the references, although the average of them isn't, this requires a simple calculation, is that what you mean--wiki 19:03, 18 August 2012 (UTC)--wiki 19:03, 18 August 2012 (UTC)?--wiki 17:12, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Why were the overall medal targets and predictions taken out without any attempt at discussion? The whole point behind this information was to demonstrate that there were very high expectations of the GB team at an elite level, and certain sports did not attain and improvement over previous performances, something which has been completely left out of the press. --Andromedean (talk) 06:21, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

--Andromedean (talk) 06:21, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

What was taken out was a random selection of predictions and an unsourced paragraph full of WP:SYNTHESIS. There is no basis for averaging an unconnected selection of predictions. There is also no indication as to why these particular predictions are more important than any others and i'd suggest that including them is WP:UNDUE - Basement12 (T.C) 07:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

I have found this site most useful. Thank you to all concerned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.176.215 (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

BBC 2012 Olympic Games DVD Screen Shots!

I would like to put a screen shot from the BBC 2012 Olympic Games DVD of Chris Hoy entering the olympic stadium with the Union Jack and possibly add other screen shots of some of the other nations but I am not sure of copyright issues or how to upload and click the right boxes, can someone explain if this is possible or not. Thank you (94.11.64.207 (talk) 18:36, 28 November 2012 (UTC))

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I have just modified 4 external links on Great Britain at the 2012 Summer Olympics. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120610234739/http://www.morethanthegames.co.uk/london-2012/0513159-london-2012-campaigners-target-locog-policy-olympic-merchandise to http://www.morethanthegames.co.uk/london-2012/0513159-london-2012-campaigners-target-locog-policy-olympic-merchandise
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120629081608/http://www.morethanthegames.co.uk/london-2012/0615419-london-2012-team-gb-mascot-pride-looks-deliver-cuddly-cash-boost to http://www.morethanthegames.co.uk/london-2012/0615419-london-2012-team-gb-mascot-pride-looks-deliver-cuddly-cash-boost
• Added {{dead link}} tag to http://www.london2012.com/news/articles/2011/9/london-2012-launches-new-range-of-team-gb-and-paralympic-1242409.html
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120203153420/http://www.fina.org/H2O/docs/events/london2012/dv/dv_qual.pdf to http://www.fina.org/H2O/docs/events/london2012/dv/dv_qual.pdf
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120830224300/http://www.london.gov.uk/media/press_releases_mayoral/our-greatest-team-%E2%80%93-athletes-parade-route-details-confirmed-0 to http://www.london.gov.uk/media/press_releases_mayoral/our-greatest-team-%E2%80%93-athletes-parade-route-details-confirmed-0

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