Talk:Grand juries in the United States
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editThe article is good, but doesn't address initial questions that an encyclopedia reader might have: Who are the people on the jury? How do the states select them? How does does it operate differently from a trial jury? 24.8.57.110 (talk) 17:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Compensations?
editAre Grand Jurors usually paid? DOR (HK) (talk) 08:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Timing of probable cause
editI have a question about the timing of probable cause. I think it is easiest to see my question in this contrived example. Suppose corrupt police officers, without evidence, draw up a list of 100 serious crimes and ask 100 grand juries to consider 100 distinct charges against a person. Suppose during this "witch hunt" that one of the grand jury investigations happens to turn up actual probable cause that a crime may have been committed and delivers an indictment. Is this a correct decision of the grand jury, or is it the grand jury's duty to verify that the police officers already had probable cause, prior to bringing it to the grand jury?
If someone knows the answer to this, perhaps even how it has evolved over time and how it varies by place, would you edit the article accordingly? Thanks, 216.66.5.54 (talk) 20:42, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- Should the first sentence of the "Investigatory role" section be something like the following? (
remove this textand insert this text.) Given the grand jury is set up to determine whether
there isthe presented information (accusation) is enough evidence to pursue a prosecution, it is given investigative powers like being able to issue subpoenas and compel witnesses to testify without a lawyer.- That is, will the grand jury continue its investigation even if it discovers that the accusation itself contains insufficient evidence? 66.194.253.20 (talk) 20:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Referencing
editThe section Secrecy (and maybe others) have a somewhat odd referencing style - using a mix of footnotes and in-text references. Could someone take a look at this? effeietsanders 19:06, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes, Missouri has grand juries
editIn the "States" part of the article, Missouri had not been listed as having grand juries. I added it to the list a few minutes ago. I'd like to encourage some lawyer/retired lawyer/law student or the like, to find a reference that correctly lists all the states. (I am none of these, and have no idea how to find such a reference without taking hours to do so.)
Articles at nytimes.com and at stltoday.com (the St. Louis Post-Dispatch website) have recently reported on the St. Louis County grand jury process now underway in the case of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, on August 9, 2014. I suppose that if I were to add one of these into the article as reference, this would represent "original research" in some sense. Which might not be any worse than the list that lacked Missouri: no reference was given in support of that version of the list. 72.251.70.112 (talk) 04:28, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
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NACDL report URL
editI'm not sure how to fix this but reference #69, the NACDL report has a broken link. This is the correct link: https://www.nacdl.org/Document/FederalGrandJuryReformReportBillofRights
I tried to make an edit but got a warning on Preview and I don't want to mess it up. Maybe someone with more knowledge could update the URL for reference link #69. Just a suggestion, I couldn't figure out how to make the edit correctly. The sanch (talk) 16:36, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
NPOV dispute
edit@Superb Owl: Which arguments in favor of grand juries should be included in this article? Jarble (talk) 15:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Before I tackle that, I want to remove all the original research from the article as that might make NPOV easier to deal with. One example of NPOV is that the opinion sources cited have a bent toward libertarian think tanks from one particular ideology as opposed to representing a broader array of perspectives. Other perspectives could still be largely negative of grand juries, but that bent plus the lack of any 'pros' mentioned plus the extensive original research raises some red flags Superb Owl (talk) 18:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update: I removed the flag after removing the OR (that was where the NPOV problem was) Superb Owl (talk) 03:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
WP:OR
editIn a few days, I plan to start removing any text relying on unsourced, outdated or primary sources (a majority of this article, which I've gone ahead and flagged with inline citations). After this WP:NOR is removed, it would be great to collaborate on finding relatively recent, WP:reliable sources and excerpting from the main Grand jury page as well. Superb Owl (talk) 19:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- OR has been removed (which was most of the article) - still some work to do on the remaining pieces to string it into something more useful Superb Owl (talk) 01:30, 11 May 2024 (UTC)