Talk:Grace Meigs Crowder

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:58, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that in the early 1900s in the United States, Grace Meigs Crowder found that complications of pregnancy and childbirth were the second most common cause of death for women aged 15 to 45 years? Source: Ono, Naoko (2006). "Gender ideology in the rise of obstetrics". The Japanese Journal of American Studies. 17: 71–89
• ...ALT0a that Grace Meigs Crowder found that pregnancy and childbirth was a common cause of death in the early 1900s for American women who were aged under 45? Source: Ono, Naoko (2006). "Gender ideology in the rise of obstetrics". The Japanese Journal of American Studies. 17: 71–89
  • ALT1: ... that in 1915, Grace Meigs Crowder became the first director of the Child Hygiene Division of the Children's Bureau of the U.S. Department of Labor? Source: Re. First director of the Child Hygiene Division: "The Sheppard-Towner Maternity Bill". The Medical Woman's Journal. 28 (1): 22. January 1921. Re Child Hygiene division is part of the Children's Bureau of the U.S. Department of Labor: Medical news, Illinois, Chicago. Journal of the American Medical Association. 63 (19): 1679. 1914

• Comment: This is my third DYK nomination, I have not reviewed another article.

Created by DferDaisy (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 4 November 2021 (UTC).

• @DferDaisy: This article is about 3300 bytes, and was nominated for DYK shortly after creation, satisfying date and length criteria. There is a factual error, as the article states she was interred in Keokuk, Illinois, but the source says she died in Chicago, Illinois and was interred in Keokuk, Iowa. I am assuming good faith for a few references I cannot access (for example, ref 15 - The National Humane Review), which for me gives a landing page for the document, instead of an inside view). Otherwise, everything is properly sourced and there are no copyvio or close paraphrasing concerns (Earwig cites 3 potential problems, but they are not an issue here.) QPQ not required.
• Regarding the hooks, ALT0 is incorrect as stated, as it reads as if the study was conducted in the early 1900s by Meigs Crowder, whereas she published it in 1917 based on studies from that period. It'll need minor alteration. ALT1 is fine and sourced. I would prefer to promote an amended ALT0.
• A minor quibble, though not an issue for DYK: please add page numbers for cited sources. If online access is eliminated from the sources, it'll force anyone investigating those sources to wade through too many pages to find the desired detail. You can do so using {{rp}} as follows for a detail on page 25 of "yoursource": <ref name="yoursource" />{{rp|25}}. Mindmatrix 22:26, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@Mindmatrix: I think your points have been addressed apart from the hook and I have suggested Alt0a which makes it clear that the studies were done in the early 1900s (that was my intrerpretation anyway - it could have been published last year and the hook would still bve correct). Victuallers (talk) 11:10, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Victuallers: ALT0a resolves the hook issue. There is still the problem of the wrong Keokuk listed in the article (the one in Illinois instead of the one in Iowa, per the provided Find a Grave ref). Mindmatrix 15:49, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mindmatrix: You are allowed to make corrections. Its quicker than getting me to do it ... but I have. Victuallers (talk) 17:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Good to go. Mindmatrix 22:46, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

ALT0a to T:DYK/P2