Talk:Governance without government

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In my opinion, the AfD made a mistake. The existence of sources using this term does not mean that what is here is any good. Given the origin of this article, it is highly likely to be garbage misinformation and should be TNT'ed at minimum. I'll be watching and support any stubbification or a 2nd AfD. Crossroads ^-talk- 22:10, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

@Crossroads, would there be a good option for merging this topic somewhere? czar 13:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure, to be honest I forgot about this article. I see in the history that some cuts were made in August 2023 due to being from sources not about the alleged topic, so that's good. Crossroads ^-talk- 23:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Czar: I don't think this article should be merged. There are 15,200 results on Google Scholar for "governance without government". This subject is definitely deserving of its own article, but it also is in desperate need of rebuilding with proper sourcing. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I'd hear that but every source I've considered potentially promising based on its title has ended up being an argumentative or philosophical essay putting forth a first-party theory rather than a third-party review essay of those first-party theories. Peters & Pierre 1998 at least came close in summarizing academic dialogue on non-governmental networks' governing functions but even there I'm not sure what we'd write the article about right now. What three sources in your search do you consider most useful for describing how this subject coheres as an encyclopedic topic? czar 14:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

In lieu of a permastub with unclear scope, I think we can cover this in a section of Governance#Types and can alway split out in summary style if there is indeed enough content that coheres into a topic that doesn't warrant coverage in the parent article. But as best as I can see right now, in sources it's used as a descriptive term ("governance without government described as) and not a standalone history (with specific history, development, academic discourse). czar 13:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)